Grey County Committee of the Whole Meeting Transcript — September 11, 2025

00:39:03 Speaker 64: to now call to order this

00:39:05 Speaker 64: committee of the whole of September

00:39:07 Speaker 64: 11th, 2025. And at this point

00:39:08 Speaker 64: in time, I'll ask for this

00:39:09 Speaker 64: agenda. Are there any declarations of

00:39:11 Speaker 65: interest? Seeing no hands raised, we'll

00:39:13 Speaker 65: move on. Business arising for minutes,

00:39:15 Speaker 65: and with that, we will begin.

00:39:16 Speaker 65: With we have two delegations this

00:39:18 Speaker 65: morning. The first one is going

00:39:19 Speaker 65: to be from Bright Shores Foundation,

00:39:20 Speaker 65: and it is the one-year update.

00:39:21 Speaker 65: And so, I would like to

00:39:24 Speaker 65: invite our presenters to come forward

00:39:25 Speaker 65: at this point in time. And

00:39:27 Speaker 65: the clerks will provide assistance with

00:39:29 Speaker 66: the lecter and Mike. And I

00:39:32 Speaker 66: understand you have a presentation. So

00:39:33 Speaker 66: make sure you're all set up.

00:39:35 Speaker 67: Okay. Yes. Good morning, Warden and

00:39:37 Speaker 67: members of Council. We're really delighted

00:39:39 Speaker 67: to be here this morning. My

00:39:40 Speaker 67: name is Amy McKinnon, and I'm

00:39:45 Speaker 67: the CEO of the Bright Shores

00:39:46 Speaker 67: Foundation. With me today is Naomi

00:39:49 Speaker 67: Vodden, who's the director of mental

00:39:52 Speaker 67: health and addictions programme at Bright

00:39:53 Speaker 67: Shores, and Ann Ford is here

00:39:55 Speaker 67: as well, and she's the CEO

00:39:57 Speaker 67: of Bright Shores, and she'll join

00:40:00 Speaker 67: us up here at towards the

00:40:02 Speaker 67: end of our presentation. Today, we're

00:40:04 Speaker 67: here for a couple reasons. First

00:40:05 Speaker 67: of all, we're very grateful for

00:40:08 Speaker 67: the million dollars. commitment from the

00:40:11 Speaker 67: County of Bruce to the Wellness

00:40:13 Speaker 67: and Recovery Centre, and we just

00:40:14 Speaker 67: recently celebrated our one-year anniversary in

00:40:16 Speaker 67: June of having clients in the

00:40:18 Speaker 68: building. So we're here today to

00:40:51 Speaker 69: share with you some of the

00:40:54 Speaker 69: successes of the one-year anniversary, and

00:40:56 Speaker 69: just to further share with you,

00:40:58 Speaker 69: this model of care was grown

00:41:00 Speaker 69: here out of Brightshore staff. So

00:41:02 Speaker 69: this model of care that was

00:41:03 Speaker 70: developed for the Wellness and Recovery

00:41:07 Speaker 71: Centre for treating mental health addictions

00:41:10 Speaker 71: is now being modeled across the

00:41:12 Speaker 71: province. There's 19 facilities across the

00:41:16 Speaker 71: province that are going to be

00:41:18 Speaker 71: built, and Naomi and her team

00:41:19 Speaker 71: have had many tours and discussions

00:41:22 Speaker 71: with these other municipalities that are

00:41:23 Speaker 71: having being built these committee. So

00:41:26 Speaker 71: I am going to hand it

00:41:28 Speaker 71: over to Naomi, who's going to

00:41:30 Speaker 71: share with you more about the

00:41:33 Speaker 71: facility and the successes after the

00:41:36 Speaker 71: first year. Okay. Good morning. Thank

00:41:40 Speaker 71: you for inviting us today, and

00:41:42 Speaker 71: a really big echo of Amy's

00:41:44 Speaker 71: words. Thank you for the funding

00:41:46 Speaker 71: for this project. It's been very

00:41:48 Speaker 71: exciting. I'm going to try to

00:41:50 Speaker 71: lean forward here. I'm too short.

00:41:52 Speaker 71: So, as Amy indicated, the facility's

00:41:54 Speaker 71: been open for a year,

00:41:57 Speaker 71: from June, and we've had just

00:42:00 Speaker 71: really exciting successes. So, just to

00:42:02 Speaker 71: recap for those of you who

00:42:04 Speaker 71: don't remember or are new. just

00:42:07 Speaker 71: some of the services that we

00:42:10 Speaker 71: have. So we have a three-week

00:42:12 Speaker 71: detox programme, more traditionally called detox,

00:42:14 Speaker 71: but we call it withdrawal management.

00:42:16 Speaker 71: We have a 90-day treatment programme,

00:42:19 Speaker 71: and we have long-term supportive stabilization

00:42:21 Speaker 71: for up to 10 patients, clients,

00:42:25 Speaker 71: and they can stay up to

00:42:31 Speaker 71: a year. We also have community

00:42:33 Speaker 72: addiction programmemes. We have a lot

00:42:35 Speaker 72: of walk-in services every day. Clients

00:42:37 Speaker 72: can attend a walk-in if they're

00:42:39 Speaker 73: To walk in if they're just

00:42:44 Speaker 73: feeling ready and want to connect,

00:42:46 Speaker 73: we have community mental health programmemes

00:42:48 Speaker 73: as well, and walk-in and outpatient

00:42:51 Speaker 73: leisure recreation programmemes. We have our

00:42:53 Speaker 73: injection and clozapine clinics, which are

00:42:56 Speaker 73: our main tools for stabilizing long-term

00:42:59 Speaker 73: mental health patients. We have peer

00:43:00 Speaker 73: and family support, which we've really

00:43:02 Speaker 73: had some great success with. Our

00:43:06 Speaker 73: family members are really grateful for

00:43:09 Speaker 73: an opportunity to connect with a

00:43:12 Speaker 73: worker, especially when their family member.

00:43:14 Speaker 73: And their family member is not

00:43:16 Speaker 73: quite ready for treatment. We've had

00:43:17 Speaker 73: some great partnerships, and the meals

00:43:21 Speaker 73: in in are provided by CMHA.

00:43:23 Speaker 73: And I just wanted to highlight

00:43:25 Speaker 73: one of the clients that I

00:43:27 Speaker 73: just got an email about today.

00:43:31 Speaker 73: And this was a patient that

00:43:34 Speaker 73: was homeless and from Neahshinuming, and

00:43:36 Speaker 73: he's been followed by SOS when

00:43:38 Speaker 73: he's in. this area, he's been

00:43:40 Speaker 73: followed by our crisis teams, M

00:43:41 Speaker 73: Hart through CMHA and M Cert

00:43:43 Speaker 73: through our hospital programmemes. By OPP,

00:43:45 Speaker 73: by Owen Sound Police. Let's see

00:43:48 Speaker 73: if I'm missing anyone because there

00:43:49 Speaker 73: is a lot of people involved.

00:43:51 Speaker 73: Our merged departments and I got

00:43:52 Speaker 73: an email today from OPP just

00:43:54 Speaker 73: stating how grateful they were that

00:43:58 Speaker 73: this the I would say the

00:44:00 Speaker 73: Wellness Centre along with the SOS

00:44:02 Speaker 73: team, have been working so well

00:44:04 Speaker 73: together and providing an opportunity to

00:44:06 Speaker 73: collabourate and a central hub to

00:44:07 Speaker 73: collabourate. And that this individual now

00:44:10 Speaker 73: has finished their treatment programme at

00:44:12 Speaker 73: the wellness centre and is moving

00:44:14 Speaker 73: into their next stage of of

00:44:16 Speaker 73: housing. So this person was very

00:44:18 Speaker 73: unstable, very unwell, and I really

00:44:20 Speaker 73: think it's a collabourative between all

00:44:22 Speaker 73: of our partners. But I would

00:44:24 Speaker 73: say with the hub with SOS

00:44:27 Speaker 73: and the Wellness and Recovery Centre.

00:44:31 Speaker 73: We've seen this great success. So

00:44:33 Speaker 73: in terms, so that's more the

00:44:36 Speaker 73: people part of the success, but

00:44:39 Speaker 73: we also have the numbers part

00:44:41 Speaker 73: of the success. And so I've

00:44:44 Speaker 73: got the chart here, and so

00:44:49 Speaker 73: initially on this chart, what we

00:44:51 Speaker 74: saw is one of the metrics

00:44:56 Speaker 73: we track track is our thirty

00:44:59 Speaker 73: day readmits to our emerge departments,

00:45:02 Speaker 73: because we know that this is

00:45:06 Speaker 73: not the best place for mental

00:45:09 Speaker 73: health and addiction clients in the

00:45:12 Speaker 73: emerge. so we track that to

00:45:15 Speaker 73: try to make sure that we're

00:45:18 Speaker 73: diverting them once they come in

00:45:20 Speaker 73: to emerge. And so, what we've

00:45:21 Speaker 73: seen over the last five years

00:45:24 Speaker 73: is, well, on this chart, 30%

00:45:26 Speaker 73: reduction. But we just got updated

00:45:28 Speaker 73: data, and it stated 65% reduction

00:45:29 Speaker 73: in ED visit that return rate.

00:45:33 Speaker 73: So, some really great successes because

00:45:35 Speaker 73: we know that this provides an

00:45:37 Speaker 73: opportunity for our patients and. clients

00:45:40 Speaker 73: to get faster access to the

00:45:42 Speaker 73: emergent department for other issues, and

00:45:44 Speaker 73: also more appropriate access to services

00:45:47 Speaker 73: for our mental health and addiction

00:45:50 Speaker 73: clients. So to highlight, we have

00:45:51 Speaker 73: fifty eight percent of our clients

00:45:53 Speaker 73: from Grey County. We have being

00:45:55 Speaker 73: a Ontario wide programme. We've developed

00:45:58 Speaker 73: a triaging system. Develop a triaging

00:46:01 Speaker 73: system so individuals from Indigenous are

00:46:05 Speaker 73: ranked on the triage sheet first,

00:46:07 Speaker 73: and people from Grey Bruce are

00:46:09 Speaker 73: second. So our waitlist did go

00:46:10 Speaker 73: up. We were taking people from

00:46:12 Speaker 73: outside of the area on our

00:46:15 Speaker 73: waitlist, but with these this triage

00:46:17 Speaker 73: in place, we weren't able to

00:46:19 Speaker 73: really accommodate them, and our waitlist

00:46:22 Speaker 73: grew up to 65 people, which

00:46:24 Speaker 73: wasn't really so really able to

00:46:27 Speaker 73: accommodate. So what we've done is

00:46:29 Speaker 73: we've we've held off on even

00:46:33 Speaker 73: taking the intakes from people outside

00:46:34 Speaker 73: Grapers, and so our wait list

00:46:36 Speaker 73: now is 45 individuals. But we've

00:46:37 Speaker 73: developed a really creative model in

00:46:39 Speaker 73: which those people that are on

00:46:43 Speaker 73: the wait list can come in

00:46:45 Speaker 73: for day programmeming if they're from

00:46:48 Speaker 73: Owen Sound. They can have access

00:46:49 Speaker 73: to a tablet, and they can

00:46:51 Speaker 73: have have remote access to programmeming

00:46:54 Speaker 73: while they're waiting. And we've developed.

00:46:57 Speaker 73: a partnership with our crisis support

00:46:59 Speaker 73: programme, which is off the emerge,

00:47:01 Speaker 73: to take two people that are

00:47:06 Speaker 73: on the wait list that are

00:47:10 Speaker 73: more acute. We've also prioritized people

00:47:13 Speaker 73: that SOS wants to bring in,

00:47:18 Speaker 73: and so we've gone to over

00:47:19 Speaker 73: capacity to flex beds just for

00:47:21 Speaker 73: the people that OS SOS want

00:47:23 Speaker 73: to to to bring in to

00:47:25 Speaker 73: ensure that it's a very complex

00:47:28 Speaker 73: patient population that SOS serves. And

00:47:31 Speaker 73: we really, when they have that

00:47:33 Speaker 73: moment that they want service, we

00:47:37 Speaker 73: wanted to give them a bed,

00:47:38 Speaker 73: even if we were full. So

00:47:41 Speaker 73: we've done thirty-three out, thirty-three thousand

00:47:43 Speaker 73: outpatient visits from June to June,

00:47:46 Speaker 73: which is really quite remarkable, and

00:47:49 Speaker 73: that's a lot of groups, a

00:47:51 Speaker 73: lot of virtual, a lot of

00:47:52 Speaker 73: in-person, and what else can I

00:47:55 Speaker 73: highlight? Thirty-one at the end of

00:47:58 Speaker 73: June, thirty-one patients that were homeless

00:48:00 Speaker 73: prior to going into the programme

00:48:03 Speaker 73: have stable. housing, and so 202

00:48:05 Speaker 73: clients had finished their individualized treatment

00:48:08 Speaker 73: programme. Recognizing that everyone has different

00:48:10 Speaker 73: goals and objectives. Well, just for

00:48:12 Speaker 75: those who you haven't been there,

00:48:15 Speaker 73: you're always welcome to reach out

00:48:18 Speaker 73: for a tour. This is the

00:48:19 Speaker 73: picture of the outside facility. It's

00:48:21 Speaker 73: on 615 Sixth Street A East,

00:48:23 Speaker 73: kind of by the Longmeadow. The

00:48:25 Speaker 73: Longmire Quay Building. It's in the

00:48:27 Speaker 73: old Baby School. This is a

00:48:29 Speaker 73: treatment room, just to give you

00:48:32 Speaker 73: an idea. Just a note: the

00:48:36 Speaker 73: quilts on the beds. So we

00:48:38 Speaker 73: were just really lucky that our

00:48:40 Speaker 73: Quilting Guild donated quilts and ongoing

00:48:43 Speaker 73: quilts to our programme, and this

00:48:45 Speaker 73: just lovely touch just makes it

00:48:47 Speaker 73: feel so much more warm and

00:48:48 Speaker 73: welcoming and less institutional. There's just

00:48:53 Speaker 73: the two-bedroom room. We were. Bedroom

00:48:55 Speaker 73: room. We were originally just doing

00:48:56 Speaker 73: single rooms, and we've changed some

00:48:57 Speaker 73: of those rooms over to double

00:48:59 Speaker 73: rooms in order to optimize our

00:49:02 Speaker 73: space and to ensure we can

00:49:07 Speaker 73: treat as many patients as possible.

00:49:08 Speaker 73: Wanted to highlight this: we have

00:49:12 Speaker 73: a very strong committee that is

00:49:14 Speaker 73: from our clients, and we really

00:49:16 Speaker 73: want to empower them to have

00:49:17 Speaker 73: some control over their life because

00:49:20 Speaker 73: the addiction has had control in

00:49:22 Speaker 73: their life. So we have a

00:49:25 Speaker 73: strong social committee. This group meets

00:49:28 Speaker 73: every Thursday with the staff to

00:49:31 Speaker 73: both address their problems, concerns, and

00:49:33 Speaker 73: and look to improve the programme,

00:49:36 Speaker 73: and as well to plan social

00:49:38 Speaker 73: activities. As one client has said,

00:49:41 Speaker 73: their whole world has been focused

00:49:46 Speaker 73: on their addiction. So how do

00:49:48 Speaker 73: you go now to having a

00:49:52 Speaker 73: healthy social life? This is a

00:49:54 Speaker 73: picture of the Oasis. It's just

00:49:58 Speaker 73: a group room where they can

00:49:59 Speaker 73: do a lot. of arts and

00:50:02 Speaker 73: crafts activities. Again, really trying to

00:50:06 Speaker 73: develop the whole, the whole self.

00:50:08 Speaker 73: The gym, again, just just reminding

00:50:10 Speaker 73: people that our lives are full

00:50:12 Speaker 73: of social and recreation opportunities. And

00:50:14 Speaker 73: clients who have had an addiction

00:50:17 Speaker 73: for many years haven't had those

00:50:19 Speaker 73: developed. So we have a very

00:50:20 Speaker 73: fulsome programme. All of the staff

00:50:22 Speaker 73: have really jumped in. Community partners

00:50:23 Speaker 73: have jumped in. We have even

00:50:26 Speaker 73: a. secretary doing line dancing on

00:50:28 Speaker 73: her noon hour breaks, and we

00:50:30 Speaker 73: have really close relationships with our

00:50:32 Speaker 73: indigenous community. We have an elder

00:50:35 Speaker 73: that comes up twice a week—one,

00:50:36 Speaker 73: one, two different elders—and they do

00:50:38 Speaker 73: group and individual counseling. They provide

00:50:41 Speaker 73: this service to anyone who wants

00:50:42 Speaker 73: it. Actually, not just indigenous. We

00:50:45 Speaker 73: just finished the. Finish the sweat

00:50:47 Speaker 73: lodge, and the fire pit area,

00:50:48 Speaker 73: and I think we've done three,

00:50:52 Speaker 73: maybe four sweats by now. One

00:50:54 Speaker 73: of our non-Indigenous clients made a

00:50:56 Speaker 73: point of telling us that even

00:50:58 Speaker 73: though our that he thought our

00:51:01 Speaker 73: programme was really helpful, really wonderful,

00:51:03 Speaker 73: and had lots to good to

00:51:04 Speaker 73: say, he said it's nothing compared

00:51:06 Speaker 73: to going to this sweat. So

00:51:07 Speaker 73: he was non-Indigenous, went to the

00:51:09 Speaker 73: sweat, and said, "I just had

00:51:11 Speaker 73: so many in." Said I just

00:51:14 Speaker 73: had so many insights into myself

00:51:15 Speaker 73: from going to that sweat, and

00:51:18 Speaker 73: here's just another picture. It's kind

00:51:19 Speaker 73: of neat those stones that you

00:51:22 Speaker 73: see under. On the flip side

00:51:24 Speaker 73: of the stones are positive messages

00:51:25 Speaker 73: written by all the clients because

00:51:28 Speaker 73: the clients work with our indigenous

00:51:30 Speaker 73: partners to build this area. So

00:51:33 Speaker 73: what's next? We're working with the

00:51:35 Speaker 73: Bright Shores Research Institute, and we're

00:51:36 Speaker 73: doing an evaluation just to, not

00:51:40 Speaker 76: just give you these numbers, to

00:51:42 Speaker 76: but really quantify the outcome. The

00:51:43 Speaker 76: outcomes. We're almost done our kitchen.

00:51:45 Speaker 76: No, we're almost done our roof.

00:51:46 Speaker 76: Our kitchen has just started, so

00:51:48 Speaker 76: we've been working hard on workarounds

00:51:49 Speaker 76: with CMHA to provide food services

00:51:51 Speaker 76: for our building. So it will

00:51:52 Speaker 76: be lovely to have the finished

00:51:55 Speaker 76: kitchen for CMHA to work

00:51:58 Speaker 73: out of, and for our clients

00:52:01 Speaker 73: to learn again how to prepare

00:52:03 Speaker 73: a meal and how to, yeah,

00:52:05 Speaker 73: maybe maybe even more than prepare

00:52:07 Speaker 73: a meal. They may be interested

00:52:08 Speaker 73: in food services, and we want

00:52:11 Speaker 73: to do it in time. We

00:52:12 Speaker 77: want to do in time some

00:52:15 Speaker 78: more work on our beautiful property,

00:52:17 Speaker 78: so we're working on just a

00:52:19 Speaker 78: site plan, so we can. As

00:52:20 Speaker 78: we all noted, I think in

00:52:22 Speaker 78: earlier conversations here today, lots of

00:52:23 Speaker 78: funding challenges, but maybe in time,

00:52:25 Speaker 78: there's a small community project that

00:52:26 Speaker 78: can take part of the grounds.

00:52:29 Speaker 78: So this we actually found on

00:52:31 Speaker 78: Google, so it didn't come to

00:52:33 Speaker 78: us directly. So I'll just read

00:52:35 Speaker 79: it. I spent five and a

00:52:40 Speaker 79: half months there, and I'm beyond

00:52:41 Speaker 80: grateful to. the staff and clients.

00:52:45 Speaker 80: It is a programme that you

00:52:47 Speaker 80: can honestly give your life back

00:52:49 Speaker 80: if you put the work in.

00:52:50 Speaker 80: The recovery workers, counselors, facilitators, bubble

00:52:51 Speaker 81: staff—that's the withdrawal management part. Custodians,

00:52:56 Speaker 82: the secretary Crystal, the nurse practitioner

00:52:59 Speaker 83: Robin, and the managers Amy and

00:53:02 Speaker 83: Director Naomi—and I'm sure I missed

00:53:03 Speaker 83: some—are just amazing humans and truly

00:53:06 Speaker 83: treat you like a friend. They

00:53:07 Speaker 83: are rooting for. I am celebrating

00:53:09 Speaker 83: six months of sobriety today. I

00:53:10 Speaker 83: get emotional easy when I hear

00:53:12 Speaker 83: these stories. and I wouldn't be

00:53:15 Speaker 84: able to do that without every

00:53:19 Speaker 84: single person in that building. Please,

00:53:21 Speaker 84: if you're struggling with addictions and

00:53:23 Speaker 84: live in the Gravest region, reach

00:53:26 Speaker 84: out. There is help in life

00:53:29 Speaker 84: after addiction. It's wonderful, and I

00:53:30 Speaker 84: would be remiss to not just

00:53:34 Speaker 84: highlight the work that SOS does

00:53:36 Speaker 84: in collabouration with the Wellness Centre.

00:53:40 Speaker 85: It really is a fulsome partnership.

00:53:43 Speaker 85: Is there any questions for Naomi,

00:53:44 Speaker 85: or do we have time for

00:53:46 Speaker 73: questions? I'll put it out for

00:53:50 Speaker 73: questions, but please don't apologize. It

00:53:52 Speaker 73: just demonstrates the dedication that you

00:53:54 Speaker 73: have to your role and the

00:53:56 Speaker 73: impact that you're making in people's

00:53:58 Speaker 86: lives. Any questions at this point

00:54:00 Speaker 86: in time? We'll go to Councillor

00:54:02 Speaker 86: Greg. Thank you very much for

00:54:04 Speaker 86: the presentation here this afternoon. I

00:54:05 Speaker 86: do have one question. You've got

00:54:06 Speaker 86: a great partnership established with Fresh

00:54:08 Speaker 73: Roots, and we know in town,

00:54:10 Speaker 73: Fresh Roots has been able to

00:54:12 Speaker 73: leverage community gardens well. across this

00:54:15 Speaker 73: country, we have vast amounts of

00:54:18 Speaker 73: underutilised space which exists in schools.

00:54:20 Speaker 87: And I'm just wondering, being an

00:54:23 Speaker 87: old public school, is like community

00:54:25 Speaker 87: garden or gardening facility something that

00:54:26 Speaker 87: you have evaluated or may look

00:54:28 Speaker 87: at in the future terms of

00:54:30 Speaker 87: an opportunity to kind of introduce

00:54:31 Speaker 87: fresh produce and enhance that that

00:54:33 Speaker 87: lively kitchen production area? You've got

00:54:35 Speaker 87: plans for? it. Yes, it's definitely

00:54:41 Speaker 87: on the plan. On the original

00:54:42 Speaker 87: plan, we had a greenhouse as

00:54:44 Speaker 88: well as gardens. Obviously, we have

00:54:47 Speaker 88: to really apply to different ministries

00:54:49 Speaker 88: for that kind of funding. But

00:54:50 Speaker 88: that is one of the projects,

00:54:52 Speaker 88: even the gardens that we envision

00:54:54 Speaker 88: the community could jump in and

00:54:56 Speaker 89: use. So we wanted the site

00:54:59 Speaker 90: plan so that we didn't just

00:55:01 Speaker 91: start putting a garden here and

00:55:04 Speaker 91: a garden there, and then maybe

00:55:05 Speaker 91: you know take up the space

00:55:07 Speaker 91: for the greenhouse vision. So. House

00:55:08 Speaker 91: vision, so it's a very important

00:55:10 Speaker 91: part of our project, and we

00:55:12 Speaker 91: see it also providing food for

00:55:13 Speaker 91: the facility. So it's like right

00:55:15 Speaker 91: now they we have two OT

00:55:17 Speaker 91: leisure aides, we call them occupational

00:55:18 Speaker 92: therapy leisure aides, and they are

00:55:22 Speaker 73: doing some small scale gardening. But

00:55:25 Speaker 93: that is one of the items

00:55:32 Speaker 93: that we look forward to in

00:55:33 Speaker 93: the future, and certainly partnerships are

00:55:35 Speaker 93: the way to go there because

00:55:37 Speaker 94: we don't have that expertise at

00:55:40 Speaker 94: all. Okay, I'll just look around.

00:55:42 Speaker 95: We'll go to Councillor Kevney, and

00:55:46 Speaker 95: then over to Councillor Patterson. Thank

00:55:49 Speaker 95: you, Madam Warden. I just wanted

00:55:51 Speaker 95: to share that last night I

00:55:52 Speaker 95: had the privilege at a board

00:55:54 Speaker 95: meeting to hear a presentation from

00:55:56 Speaker 73: Lavender Lille, who I know works

00:55:58 Speaker 73: with your organisation, and she talked

00:56:00 Speaker 73: to us as a board about

00:56:01 Speaker 73: how to approach someone in crisis

00:56:05 Speaker 73: should they come into that particular

00:56:06 Speaker 96: building, and I just found it

00:56:09 Speaker 73: really valuable, and I just. as

00:56:12 Speaker 73: a thought, wondered at at some

00:56:13 Speaker 73: point, perhaps that training perhaps could

00:56:14 Speaker 73: come to County Council because we

00:56:16 Speaker 73: never know in our own lives

00:56:18 Speaker 73: when we might be in a

00:56:19 Speaker 73: circumstance like that. So I'll just

00:56:21 Speaker 73: leave that with you. Lavin is

00:56:23 Speaker 73: one of our managers in that

00:56:30 Speaker 73: health and wonderful resource. So yeah.

00:56:32 Speaker 73: Okay, Councillor Patterson. Thank you, Warden.

00:56:33 Speaker 97: Good morning, County Council, and thank

00:56:36 Speaker 97: you for the presentation. I wonder

00:56:38 Speaker 97: if you could speak to staffing,

00:56:39 Speaker 97: the complement, like how many staff

00:56:42 Speaker 97: are on site daily. I don't

00:56:43 Speaker 97: know why it keeps kicking off,

00:56:46 Speaker 97: but we have over sixty staff

00:56:48 Speaker 97: there. So we moved our mental

00:56:50 Speaker 97: health teams there as well. So

00:56:51 Speaker 97: we had the addiction programme, which

00:56:53 Speaker 98: I believe is about thirty-two staff,

00:56:56 Speaker 98: and numbers are not my strong

00:56:58 Speaker 98: point to remember, but I believe

00:56:59 Speaker 98: it's around thirty-two and sixty some.

00:57:01 Speaker 98: So. work there because we moved

00:57:03 Speaker 99: over some mental health teams. We're

00:57:05 Speaker 99: really we're trying to merge. In

00:57:07 Speaker 99: in historically, mental health and addictions

00:57:08 Speaker 99: were very separate, and we know

00:57:10 Speaker 99: I think we all know here

00:57:12 Speaker 100: intuitively they belong together. And so

00:57:15 Speaker 100: we were trying to do that

00:57:16 Speaker 100: by moving our mental health programmemes

00:57:17 Speaker 100: in, and as well, there's cost

00:57:19 Speaker 100: savings and really great synergies. Okay,

00:57:21 Speaker 101: and it's not you; it's only

00:57:23 Speaker 101: one mic. Be on it. Only

00:57:26 Speaker 101: one mic can be on at

00:57:27 Speaker 101: at one time, so so don't

00:57:29 Speaker 101: worry, we we've got it. Technology

00:57:31 Speaker 101: is trying to control us, but

00:57:33 Speaker 101: we're we're in control of the

00:57:35 Speaker 101: technology. Any other questions before we

00:57:37 Speaker 101: move on to the next part

00:57:39 Speaker 101: of the presentation? I do not

00:57:41 Speaker 101: see any further hands up. Good,

00:57:43 Speaker 101: so I think we're ready to

00:57:44 Speaker 101: progress. So I'm going to turn

00:57:46 Speaker 101: my mic off so that you

00:57:48 Speaker 101: can turn yours on. There we

00:57:52 Speaker 101: go. Good morning, everyone. I'm Anne

00:57:55 Speaker 101: for the president CEO of Brightshores.

00:57:56 Speaker 101: My apologies, I'm. moving a little

00:57:57 Speaker 101: bit slower today because I had

00:57:59 Speaker 101: the pleasure of meeting some of

00:58:03 Speaker 101: the Gray County paramedics about seven

00:58:05 Speaker 101: weeks ago when I broke both

00:58:09 Speaker 101: of my ankles at my home.

00:58:11 Speaker 101: It was fabulous. Anyway, I'm up

00:58:14 Speaker 101: and running and moving. But today

00:58:16 Speaker 101: is not about me. It's about

00:58:18 Speaker 101: you and and to thank you

00:58:21 Speaker 101: for everything that you've done for

00:58:23 Speaker 101: the Wellness Centre, but also just

00:58:25 Speaker 101: for Brightshore's Health System, the AMO.

00:58:27 Speaker 101: We were we were very happy

00:58:30 Speaker 101: to be asked to be providing

00:58:31 Speaker 101: some input into some of the

00:58:33 Speaker 101: documentation of Some of the documentation

00:58:35 Speaker 101: that went forward. I know you

00:58:37 Speaker 101: were all talking about healthcare at

00:58:39 Speaker 101: AMOS, so we really appreciate that

00:58:40 Speaker 101: advocacy because it's a frontline advocacy

00:58:42 Speaker 101: for all of us, and really

00:58:43 Speaker 101: solidifies what we're trying to bring

00:58:47 Speaker 101: forward to the provincial government as

00:58:49 Speaker 101: we try to move this forward.

00:58:52 Speaker 101: The other thing I'm here for

00:58:55 Speaker 101: today is to ask you for

00:58:56 Speaker 101: your participation in our next strategic

00:58:58 Speaker 101: plan. So we are in the

00:59:00 Speaker 101: process. We're in the very last

00:59:01 Speaker 101: year of our current strategic plan.

00:59:05 Speaker 101: So we're kicking off in October

00:59:07 Speaker 101: with engagement, both internal and external

00:59:11 Speaker 101: engagement, through the months of October

00:59:12 Speaker 101: and November, to speak to anyone

00:59:14 Speaker 101: and everyone we can across the

00:59:18 Speaker 101: region around their healthcare, what they

00:59:20 Speaker 101: think we're doing well, what we're

00:59:21 Speaker 101: not doing well, but actually then

00:59:22 Speaker 101: provide us with feedback. So one

00:59:23 Speaker 101: of the first groups we want

00:59:24 Speaker 101: to talk to is you, as

00:59:27 Speaker 101: you represent all of the residents

00:59:30 Speaker 101: and businesses within your communities, it

00:59:32 Speaker 101: would be great to get some

00:59:36 Speaker 101: feedback from you on what you're

00:59:37 Speaker 101: thinking and what's happening in your

00:59:39 Speaker 101: communities and where things are going.

00:59:41 Speaker 101: We know we are, you know,

00:59:42 Speaker 101: we've known this unfortunately for 20

00:59:44 Speaker 101: years, but we all know we're

00:59:46 Speaker 101: going to be living with an

00:59:48 Speaker 101: increased seniors population. That seniors population

00:59:50 Speaker 101: is going to drive needs, more

00:59:51 Speaker 102: needs for lots of community-based and

00:59:54 Speaker 103: social services and healthcare. We're already

00:59:57 Speaker 103: starting to see the impact of

00:59:58 Speaker 103: chronic disease, and it's not just

00:59:59 Speaker 103: one; it's multiples of chronic disease

01:00:00 Speaker 103: of folks coming into our ER

01:00:04 Speaker 103: and being admitted. So, having that

01:00:06 Speaker 103: really round view of what's happening

01:00:09 Speaker 103: within your communities, I heard long-term

01:00:12 Speaker 103: care mentioned. I know we're already,

01:00:14 Speaker 103: you know, working with Gray on

01:00:16 Speaker 103: on some other things. So, from

01:00:17 Speaker 103: your perspective, would be great. So,

01:00:19 Speaker 103: you also know though, as we

01:00:21 Speaker 103: go out to talk to the

01:00:23 Speaker 103: community, I know we're we're going

01:00:26 Speaker 103: to be in Owen Sound. There's

01:00:27 Speaker 103: a community event sometime where you're

01:00:29 Speaker 103: bringing in community social programmemes. We

01:00:31 Speaker 103: will be there, asking our our

01:00:33 Speaker 103: direct community some questions and just

01:00:35 Speaker 103: getting feedback. So if you have

01:00:37 Speaker 103: things happening within your communities, I

01:00:39 Speaker 103: know our communications department will be

01:00:41 Speaker 103: reaching out to everyone. We'd like

01:00:43 Speaker 103: to put up a table and

01:00:45 Speaker 103: just have some you know general

01:00:47 Speaker 103: conversations. There's no presentation per se.

01:00:49 Speaker 103: It's just asking folks what they

01:00:51 Speaker 103: think and where we're going. This

01:00:52 Speaker 103: will be a five year plan.

01:00:54 Speaker 103: This will be a five-year plan.

01:00:56 Speaker 103: So we are looking at the

01:00:58 Speaker 103: data. We're finding out what our

01:01:00 Speaker 103: patients are going to look like.

01:01:01 Speaker 103: We know the populations are going

01:01:02 Speaker 103: to be growing, and it's not

01:01:03 Speaker 103: just about our large, first centre

01:01:07 Speaker 103: here in Owen Sound. It's about

01:01:09 Speaker 103: the Markdale, about Meaford, and our

01:01:12 Speaker 103: other partner hospitals that are in

01:01:15 Speaker 103: Bruce County. How are we managing?

01:01:16 Speaker 103: How are we looking at that

01:01:17 Speaker 103: regional system to manage the stroke

01:01:18 Speaker 103: that comes in from Lionshead? and

01:01:19 Speaker 104: I know that that's Bruce County,

01:01:22 Speaker 104: but that comes in from Lionshead.

01:01:23 Speaker 104: And finally, I'll finish off with

01:01:25 Speaker 104: a shout out to Naomi and

01:01:27 Speaker 104: her team for mental health. The

01:01:29 Speaker 104: Addictions Wellness and Treatment Centre is

01:01:30 Speaker 103: one piece. You may know we

01:01:33 Speaker 103: also have a large component of

01:01:34 Speaker 103: inpatient beds, both geriatric and inpatient

01:01:35 Speaker 105: beds for mental health here at

01:01:38 Speaker 105: Owen Sound. We have some pediatric

01:01:39 Speaker 106: beds, not enough. We're advocating for

01:01:43 Speaker 106: a couple more pediatric beds because

01:01:44 Speaker 97: the only pediatric mental health beds

01:01:47 Speaker 97: other than he. Health beds, other

01:01:49 Speaker 97: than here in London, so you

01:01:50 Speaker 107: can imagine trying to get one

01:01:53 Speaker 107: a pediatric patient. So we're looking

01:01:54 Speaker 107: more at adolescent. We're working very

01:01:56 Speaker 107: closely with Keystone on their their

01:01:57 Speaker 107: children's mental health. But shout out

01:01:57 Speaker 107: to that. But also, I need

01:02:01 Speaker 107: I can't I'd be remiss if

01:02:02 Speaker 108: I don't shout out to all

01:02:05 Speaker 108: of our staff and physicians. The

01:02:06 Speaker 108: summer has been busy. We know

01:02:08 Speaker 108: our our seasonal folks come in,

01:02:09 Speaker 109: and we're getting ready for surge

01:02:12 Speaker 109: season. Hopefully, the flu is not

01:02:13 Speaker 109: too bad this year. So shout

01:02:16 Speaker 24: out to all of these folks.

01:02:19 Speaker 24: They all live in our communities.

01:02:20 Speaker 24: They do one hell of a

01:02:21 Speaker 24: job. It's amazing the dedication that

01:02:23 Speaker 24: they put into their roles. So

01:02:26 Speaker 24: I'll stop there. But really looking

01:02:28 Speaker 24: forward to talking to you more,

01:02:30 Speaker 24: both at this session and we

01:02:32 Speaker 24: will be reaching out individually to

01:02:34 Speaker 24: your offices to see if there's

01:02:35 Speaker 24: anything happening in your communities where

01:02:36 Speaker 24: we can just talk to folks.

01:02:37 Speaker 110: So thank you. I'm happy to

01:02:40 Speaker 110: take it. There's any questions? I

01:02:42 Speaker 110: know. Thank you very much. And

01:02:44 Speaker 110: so, are there any questions for

01:02:46 Speaker 110: either? CEO Ford or CEO McKinnon,

01:02:47 Speaker 110: as well with the presentation. We'll

01:02:49 Speaker 110: go to Councillor McQueen. Thank you,

01:02:50 Speaker 110: Madam Warden. Good morning, Anne. And

01:02:52 Speaker 111: I didn't recognize you coming in

01:02:55 Speaker 111: the door. I didn't think you

01:02:57 Speaker 111: were. I didn't know who was

01:02:58 Speaker 111: in the Walker. So I apologize

01:03:00 Speaker 111: for that. Yeah, I, I will

01:03:02 Speaker 111: say, like, just as a small

01:03:04 Speaker 112: part, we in Great Highlands had

01:03:07 Speaker 112: the Ram Roadier for the last

01:03:08 Speaker 112: five years, but also the presence

01:03:10 Speaker 112: presence of the hospital foundation, and

01:03:12 Speaker 112: it's. I think it has been

01:03:15 Speaker 112: quite useful to have that. ability

01:03:17 Speaker 112: for people to understand what that

01:03:18 Speaker 112: type of equipment is used for,

01:03:20 Speaker 112: or whatever, and that's what they

01:03:23 Speaker 112: were very good at. That I

01:03:25 Speaker 112: will say. The other part is

01:03:27 Speaker 112: from not to speak too much

01:03:28 Speaker 112: on it, but are all our

01:03:28 Speaker 112: gate receipts or profits went to

01:03:31 Speaker 112: the hospital foundation? And somebody would

01:03:32 Speaker 112: say, "Wow, it seems a little

01:03:34 Speaker 113: bit of expensive for the," and

01:03:36 Speaker 113: then it was said, "Well, it's

01:03:37 Speaker 113: all going to the hospital." Okay,

01:03:39 Speaker 114: so that part of fundraising and

01:03:48 Speaker 101: raising funds for the hospital is.

01:03:50 Speaker 101: that sweet spot that we all

01:03:51 Speaker 101: know we need, and it that

01:03:52 Speaker 101: just sort of pushes it over

01:03:54 Speaker 101: the top. So, it's it's a

01:03:57 Speaker 101: it's a balanced approach when when

01:03:59 Speaker 101: you're when you're raising funds. But

01:04:02 Speaker 101: everybody needs healthcare, and it just

01:04:03 Speaker 101: seems to be that I don't

01:04:05 Speaker 101: want to call it sacred cow,

01:04:07 Speaker 101: but it just everybody understands the

01:04:09 Speaker 101: need. And when it comes to

01:04:11 Speaker 101: fundraising and stuff like that, people

01:04:13 Speaker 101: give. And but it's also important

01:04:14 Speaker 101: on the education, and I will

01:04:16 Speaker 101: say on that part, having a

01:04:19 Speaker 101: table at those fund. Table at

01:04:20 Speaker 101: those fun those functions is an

01:04:22 Speaker 101: opportunity for yourselves and others to

01:04:24 Speaker 101: communicate what it's all about and

01:04:25 Speaker 101: why the funds are so important.

01:04:26 Speaker 101: For and I can't remember all

01:04:27 Speaker 101: the unique utensils they would have

01:04:28 Speaker 101: on that table, but they're pretty

01:04:30 Speaker 101: expensive, right? And and they have

01:04:32 Speaker 101: to be in it because they

01:04:33 Speaker 101: have to be top notch quality.

01:04:35 Speaker 101: But again, it just seemed to

01:04:37 Speaker 62: be that win win and that

01:04:46 Speaker 62: communication of just explaining that was

01:04:47 Speaker 62: was so beneficial in that part.

01:04:48 Speaker 62: So I think that's a good

01:04:49 Speaker 62: part to keep moving forward on.

01:04:51 Speaker 62: Thank you for that, because I

01:04:52 Speaker 115: know that the foundations, you know,

01:04:55 Speaker 116: Amy's here, known and sound, but

01:04:58 Speaker 116: we also have four other foundations

01:04:59 Speaker 116: at our other facilities that do

01:05:01 Speaker 117: raise money for us, and it's

01:05:05 Speaker 117: an incredible impact to what we

01:05:06 Speaker 117: are available to do. I think

01:05:08 Speaker 117: one of the things, you know,

01:05:09 Speaker 117: I'm here representing our hospitals. There's

01:05:10 Speaker 117: a whole community of healthcare that

01:05:12 Speaker 118: happens outside the hospital. and you

01:05:15 Speaker 119: know, even as we look at

01:05:17 Speaker 119: the strategy, how are we starting

01:05:18 Speaker 119: to? We already partner, but how

01:05:20 Speaker 119: are we starting to look more

01:05:21 Speaker 119: towards our community partners to help

01:05:22 Speaker 119: us keep patients out of the

01:05:23 Speaker 119: hospital? No one wants to be

01:05:25 Speaker 119: in a hospital. No one. I

01:05:29 Speaker 119: mean, it's it's one of those

01:05:30 Speaker 119: things. It's not like you're going

01:05:31 Speaker 119: to a hotel and having a

01:05:33 Speaker 119: good time. No one wants to

01:05:34 Speaker 101: be there. We are a necessity,

01:05:37 Speaker 101: but what do we need to

01:05:42 Speaker 101: do in the future to help

01:05:44 Speaker 101: people stay healthy so they're out

01:05:46 Speaker 101: of our hospitals? They'll always be.

01:05:47 Speaker 101: needed. Oh, I gotta shut my.

01:05:51 Speaker 101: Just to follow up to that,

01:05:52 Speaker 101: Madam Ward, and I just—I know

01:05:54 Speaker 101: if people have been listening to

01:05:55 Speaker 101: the radio last couple days, but

01:05:58 Speaker 101: there's been a new ad programme

01:05:59 Speaker 101: out talking about prevention and a

01:06:00 Speaker 101: new type of getting testing and

01:06:02 Speaker 101: stuff like that. Is that relatively

01:06:04 Speaker 101: new? Has anybody heard it recently?

01:06:06 Speaker 101: It's talking about early screening and

01:06:08 Speaker 101: and and there's like five. And

01:06:15 Speaker 38: and there's like 500 things that

01:06:18 Speaker 120: you can get checked out that

01:06:21 Speaker 120: about cancer and that kind of

01:06:24 Speaker 120: stuff. It just it's a whole

01:06:25 Speaker 120: new campaign that's that's out there.

01:06:27 Speaker 120: I found it's quite it's preventive

01:06:29 Speaker 120: preventiveness or early part of detect

01:06:30 Speaker 120: detection. And I just wonder if

01:06:31 Speaker 120: that's a new campaign from the

01:06:33 Speaker 120: Ministry of Health. But I just

01:06:34 Speaker 121: I've noticed that in this past

01:06:38 Speaker 121: week there seems to be some

01:06:39 Speaker 121: ads, which makes sense. I don't

01:06:41 Speaker 121: know if you have any comment

01:06:42 Speaker 121: to that. There is going to

01:06:44 Speaker 121: be more of a push on

01:06:45 Speaker 121: prevention and screening. So I think

01:06:46 Speaker 121: everyone knows you know there's already

01:06:48 Speaker 121: screening. for colon cancer, and there's

01:06:49 Speaker 121: breast screening, and the Ontario breast

01:06:51 Speaker 121: screening guidelines now have reduced the

01:15:47 Speaker 20: age down to 40 for women

01:15:50 Speaker 20: to to actually come in for

01:15:52 Speaker 20: mammograms, which is fantastic.

01:16:55 Speaker 20: The cancer

01:17:26 Speaker 20: rates in younger people are growing

01:17:28 Speaker 20: for certain things like colon cancer

01:17:30 Speaker 20: in younger, and we're talking people

01:17:31 Speaker 20: in their 30s and 40s. So

01:17:33 Speaker 20: there's another push on that, but

01:17:35 Speaker 20: there there is going to be

01:17:37 Speaker 20: more of a push from the

01:17:39 Speaker 20: ministry and through our OH. And

01:17:40 Speaker 20: through our OHTs around prevention, and

01:17:43 Speaker 20: how might you be able to

01:17:46 Speaker 20: to get some some of the

01:17:48 Speaker 20: tests, etc., to the community? Okay,

01:17:50 Speaker 20: thank you. Any other questions, Madam

01:17:52 Speaker 20: Clerk? Anything online? I don't have

01:17:53 Speaker 20: my screen. There we go. Okay,

01:17:55 Speaker 20: great. Well, that looks like that's

01:17:57 Speaker 20: the conclusion of the questions. We

01:18:00 Speaker 20: appreciate all three of you coming

01:18:01 Speaker 20: today and providing the update, and

01:18:04 Speaker 20: certainly that. And certainly, there are

01:18:06 Speaker 20: lots of good news in what

01:18:07 Speaker 20: you're able to share with us

01:18:08 Speaker 20: this morning. Thank you very much.

01:18:12 Speaker 20: Okay, thank you. So, at this

01:18:13 Speaker 20: point in time, the clerks have

01:18:17 Speaker 20: requested we take a brief break

01:18:18 Speaker 20: between our delegations. So, what we'll

01:18:21 Speaker 20: do is we'll take our our

01:18:23 Speaker 122: mid morning break at this point

01:18:26 Speaker 122: in time, and if we could

01:18:27 Speaker 122: come back, let's try to make

01:18:29 Speaker 122: it back by eleven ten, and

01:18:31 Speaker 122: we'll carry on from there. Thank

01:18:33 Speaker 122: you very much. I'll just encourage

01:18:35 Speaker 122: our county council members to start

01:18:37 Speaker 122: coming back forward to their positions.

01:18:39 Speaker 122: Thank you. Okay, so. looks like

01:18:41 Speaker 122: we have our quorum back here.

01:18:45 Speaker 122: Now I can announce that we

01:18:47 Speaker 122: are actually not going to be

01:18:49 Speaker 122: entertaining item 4B. That delegation has

01:18:50 Speaker 122: been postponed to a future meeting,

01:18:54 Speaker 122: so we'll bring them back at

01:18:55 Speaker 122: another time. That allows us to

01:18:56 Speaker 122: move to item 5, which is

01:18:58 Speaker 122: our determination of of items requiring

01:19:00 Speaker 122: separate discussion. There are five

01:19:02 Speaker 122: different items under the consent agenda

01:19:06 Speaker 122: this this today. So I'm going

01:19:07 Speaker 122: to ask for the items that

01:19:08 Speaker 122: wish to be pulled, and then

01:19:09 Speaker 122: we'll move the motion to look.

01:19:11 Speaker 122: after the rest of them. Anything

01:19:13 Speaker 122: through items six A through six

01:19:15 Speaker 122: E that any member wishes to

01:19:17 Speaker 122: pull for a separate discussion.

01:19:20 Speaker 122: Councillor Greg. Thank you for

01:19:22 Speaker 122: the opportunity. I have six B

01:19:25 Speaker 122: that I do have a question

01:19:27 Speaker 122: related to, so I'd like to

01:19:31 Speaker 123: pull it, please. Okay, so that's

01:19:34 Speaker 123: six B. Any others? Okay, not

01:19:36 Speaker 123: seeing any hands online or

01:19:38 Speaker 02: here around the horseshoe. So with

01:19:41 Speaker 02: without six B, it is recommended

01:19:43 Speaker 02: that the following consent agenda items.

01:19:45 Speaker 02: be received, and that staff be

01:19:47 Speaker 02: authorised to take actions necessary to

01:19:49 Speaker 02: give effect to the recommendations in

01:19:51 Speaker 02: the staff reports, and that the

01:19:56 Speaker 124: correspondence be supported or received for

01:19:58 Speaker 124: information as recommended in the consent

01:19:59 Speaker 124: agenda. May ask for a mover

01:20:01 Speaker 124: and a seconder. Moved by the

01:20:02 Speaker 124: deputy ordnance, seconded by Councillor Dicker.

01:20:05 Speaker 124: And any discussion. All those in

01:20:08 Speaker 124: favour. That motion is carried, and

01:20:09 Speaker 124: we will revisit item six B

01:20:11 Speaker 124: at the end of our agenda.

01:20:13 Speaker 124: Okay, so now we'll go on

01:20:14 Speaker 124: to the items that are scheduled

01:20:16 Speaker 124: for discussion. That is Section Seven.

01:20:18 Speaker 124: The first one that we have

01:20:20 Speaker 124: is Item Seven A: Planning and

01:20:21 Speaker 124: Economic Development Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes.

01:20:24 Speaker 124: And Director Myers, do you'd like

01:20:26 Speaker 124: to speak to that? Let me

01:20:27 Speaker 124: get the motion on the floor

01:20:29 Speaker 124: for you, and then offer you

01:20:31 Speaker 124: the lectern to speak. So, with

01:20:33 Speaker 124: that, then it's recommended that the

01:20:35 Speaker 124: county of the county of planning

01:20:36 Speaker 124: and that the county planning and

01:20:38 Speaker 124: economic development advisory committee meeting minutes

01:20:41 Speaker 124: dated August seventh, twenty twenty five,

01:20:42 Speaker 124: be adopted as presented, and the

01:20:44 Speaker 124: following resolutions contained therein be endorsed.

01:20:46 Speaker 124: That report E D T C

01:20:47 Speaker 124: P E D A C zero

01:20:49 Speaker 124: eight twenty five regarding Economic Development

01:20:51 Speaker 124: Tourism and Culture Strategic Progress Report

01:20:52 Speaker 124: August twenty twenty five be received

01:20:54 Speaker 124: for information. May I ask for

01:20:55 Speaker 124: a mover and a seconder? I've

01:20:58 Speaker 124: got it moved by Councillor Hutchinson,

01:21:00 Speaker 124: seconded by Councillor. Nielsen, it's on

01:21:01 Speaker 124: the floor for discussion. Welcome, Director

01:21:04 Speaker 124: Myers. Thank you very much. And

01:21:05 Speaker 124: through you, Orton, we had an

01:21:07 Speaker 124: excellent PDAC meeting. There's a lot

01:21:07 Speaker 124: of energy in our PDAC meetings,

01:21:09 Speaker 124: so thank you to Chair Kibney,

01:21:11 Speaker 124: who runs those so smoothly. We

01:21:14 Speaker 124: started the day off with a

01:21:15 Speaker 124: delegation from Amanda Meja from Henry

01:21:16 Speaker 124: Bernard Entrepreneurship Centre. So, as you

01:21:18 Speaker 124: remember from last year, this was

01:21:21 Speaker 124: a pilot programme and partnership that

01:21:22 Speaker 124: Gray County entered into. to bring

01:21:25 Speaker 124: that service to this region. We've

01:21:26 Speaker 124: always had to rely on it

01:21:27 Speaker 124: through Barry, but we wanted to

01:21:30 Speaker 124: see what potential there was here,

01:21:31 Speaker 124: what relationships we could make, and

01:21:33 Speaker 124: what impact it might have by

01:21:35 Speaker 124: bringing it here to Sidney Campus.

01:21:37 Speaker 124: And it was a really successful

01:21:38 Speaker 124: pilot. They supported 20 businesses who

01:21:40 Speaker 124: are not in the startup phase,

01:21:43 Speaker 124: but in the actual growth stages

01:21:44 Speaker 124: with things like IP, so intellectual

01:21:45 Speaker 124: property. That is an area we

01:21:47 Speaker 124: do not get into as staff

01:21:49 Speaker 124: at the county. That's not an

01:21:50 Speaker 124: expertise of our That's not an

01:21:52 Speaker 124: expertise of ours. We were able

01:21:52 Speaker 124: to tap into their mentors who

01:21:54 Speaker 124: are through their Barry network. So

01:21:56 Speaker 124: instead of having to just rely

01:21:59 Speaker 124: on local mentors, that we're able

01:22:00 Speaker 124: to create, we now have a

01:22:01 Speaker 124: wider net cast. We also have

01:22:04 Speaker 124: excellent partnership with the staff at

01:22:06 Speaker 124: Henry Burnick, and now with Amanda's

01:22:08 Speaker 124: departure, she is on the other

01:22:10 Speaker 124: side of the world, I believe,

01:22:11 Speaker 124: doing her master's now, which is

01:22:13 Speaker 124: hard to step in the way

01:22:14 Speaker 124: of that. But we now have

01:22:15 Speaker 124: Ryan Burrell, who will be our

01:22:16 Speaker 124: contact for this area, focused on

01:22:19 Speaker 124: Gray and Bruce and. continuing this

01:22:20 Speaker 124: good work, so we're really happy

01:22:22 Speaker 124: with the partnership that we had,

01:22:22 Speaker 124: and lots of excitement. There's a

01:22:24 Speaker 124: large PowerPoint presentation that you can

01:22:25 Speaker 124: look at from the PDAC committee

01:22:28 Speaker 124: that will take you through all

01:22:30 Speaker 124: of the wins that we saw

01:22:32 Speaker 124: across that first year. So that

01:22:34 Speaker 124: was the first part of our

01:22:35 Speaker 124: committee. The second, we went into

01:22:37 Speaker 124: our strategic progress report for August,

01:22:38 Speaker 124: which is really hard to believe.

01:22:39 Speaker 124: Then now we're in September, and

01:22:41 Speaker 124: time is really flying. But a

01:22:43 Speaker 124: couple of key points to highlight

01:22:44 Speaker 124: from that. report, and the first

01:22:45 Speaker 124: was the lean training that our

01:22:47 Speaker 124: economic development, tourism, and culture team

01:22:49 Speaker 124: is going through. So we piloted

01:22:51 Speaker 124: a lean training last year with

01:22:52 Speaker 124: our village at Gray Roots, and

01:22:54 Speaker 124: I'm going to talk to you

01:22:56 Speaker 124: about some of the the successes

01:22:57 Speaker 124: through that. But this was really

01:23:00 Speaker 124: looking at ourselves. So our master

01:23:01 Speaker 124: plan tells us what we need

01:23:03 Speaker 124: to do to best serve our

01:23:06 Speaker 124: clients, our municipalities, our businesses. The

01:23:08 Speaker 124: lean training is for us as

01:23:09 Speaker 124: a team to make sure that

01:23:11 Speaker 124: we are resourced, we are structured,

01:23:12 Speaker 124: and we are functioning the way

01:23:14 Speaker 124: that we can. be most efficient,

01:23:16 Speaker 124: so we're not trying to do

01:23:18 Speaker 124: more with less. We're trying to

01:23:20 Speaker 124: do what we need to do

01:23:22 Speaker 124: in a good way that keeps

01:23:24 Speaker 124: everybody happy. So that is ongoing,

01:23:27 Speaker 124: and we're excited to continue that

01:23:28 Speaker 124: on through the rest of the

01:23:31 Speaker 124: year and be back to you

01:23:32 Speaker 124: with a an update on how

01:23:33 Speaker 124: that has gone by November. We

01:23:36 Speaker 124: are also working on the memory

01:23:37 Speaker 124: and understanding for Team Gray. So

01:23:41 Speaker 124: that is a project that is

01:23:43 Speaker 124: under my portfolio. So I'm working

01:23:47 Speaker 124: with every one of your CAOs

01:23:49 Speaker 124: right now. They have all been

01:23:51 Speaker 124: very generous with their time. We've

01:23:54 Speaker 124: had two discussions at this. point,

01:23:57 Speaker 124: so they will be getting a

01:23:58 Speaker 124: draft soon, and we'll talk

01:24:00 Speaker 124: about this at the next leadership

01:24:02 Speaker 124: forum on October 30th of what

01:24:04 Speaker 124: this MOU looks like, and it

01:24:06 Speaker 124: really is about laying out the

01:24:07 Speaker 124: roles and responsibilities between our member

01:24:08 Speaker 124: municipality and the county when it

01:24:10 Speaker 124: comes to economic development and investment

01:24:12 Speaker 124: readiness. So how we can work

01:24:13 Speaker 124: best together in a cohesive manner.

01:24:15 Speaker 124: We celebrated the launch of our

01:24:16 Speaker 124: newest gather video, which was featuring

01:24:18 Speaker 124: downtown Owen Sound businesses, and really

01:24:21 Speaker 124: taking a moment to celebrate all

01:24:23 Speaker 124: of the good people. and all

01:24:25 Speaker 124: of the good business we have

01:24:27 Speaker 124: in downtown Owen Sound. So, if

01:24:29 Speaker 124: you haven't seen it already, I

01:24:30 Speaker 124: do encourage you to take a

01:24:32 Speaker 124: look at that because it really

01:24:34 Speaker 124: has been a great opportunity to

01:24:36 Speaker 125: tell a different story and to

01:24:39 Speaker 125: recognize all of the good that

01:24:41 Speaker 125: we have across our communities. Business

01:24:43 Speaker 125: Enterprise Centre. I did want to

01:24:45 Speaker 125: highlight this. So, as Randy had

01:24:47 Speaker 125: mentioned before, this was one of

01:24:49 Speaker 125: the delegations for AMO. But just

01:24:50 Speaker 125: to give you an idea, from

01:24:52 Speaker 126: April to June, so in that

01:24:54 Speaker 126: three-month period. the business enterprise staff

01:24:56 Speaker 126: handled 144 inquiries. They had 33

01:24:57 Speaker 126: one-on-one consultations. They supported 10 businesses

01:24:59 Speaker 126: to sustain, seven businesses to expand,

01:25:01 Speaker 126: and five businesses to be purchased

01:25:03 Speaker 126: in that three-month period. So the

01:25:04 Speaker 126: services are very, very valuable. There

01:25:06 Speaker 126: is no shortage to knock on

01:25:08 Speaker 126: their door. And what's really interesting,

01:25:11 Speaker 126: most business enterprise centres, you have

01:25:13 Speaker 126: the option to be in person

01:25:15 Speaker 126: or virtual. In Gray County, 70%

01:25:16 Speaker 126: of our clients. Seventy percent of

01:25:18 Speaker 126: our clients choose to come in

01:25:19 Speaker 126: person, so they will drive across

01:25:21 Speaker 126: the county to come to Sydney

01:25:23 Speaker 126: to sit down and have that

01:25:25 Speaker 126: consultation with the Enterprise Centre. And

01:25:27 Speaker 126: I think that's really important. It's

01:25:29 Speaker 126: just it bodes well to the

01:25:30 Speaker 126: relationships they've built in this region

01:25:31 Speaker 126: and the impact that they're having.

01:25:33 Speaker 126: They also did an intensive series,

01:25:36 Speaker 126: and between eight workshops, had one

01:25:37 Speaker 126: hundred and seventy three participants come

01:25:39 Speaker 126: through those eight workshops, and those

01:25:41 Speaker 126: were intensives taking care of the

01:25:42 Speaker 126: person behind the business and the

01:25:44 Speaker 126: things that we hear as the

01:25:45 Speaker 126: great. Here as the greatest barriers

01:25:47 Speaker 126: and the greatest threats to businesses

01:25:48 Speaker 126: today. With Sydney Campus, we also

01:25:50 Speaker 126: celebrated our doors. So if you

01:25:52 Speaker 126: haven't been to Sydney lately, we

01:25:53 Speaker 126: have new exterior doors that actually

01:25:55 Speaker 126: lock and close, which is amazing.

01:25:57 Speaker 126: They look excellent, and it's really

01:25:59 Speaker 126: brought a whole new look and

01:26:00 Speaker 126: feel to the hallways because we

01:26:02 Speaker 126: went full floor-to-ceiling glass. So it

01:26:04 Speaker 126: just opened the space up and

01:26:05 Speaker 126: brought a lot of natural light.

01:26:07 Speaker 126: So anytime you wish to celebrate

01:26:09 Speaker 126: those doors at Sydney, please go

01:26:11 Speaker 126: ahead because every time we walk

01:26:12 Speaker 126: down the hall, we get excited.

01:26:13 Speaker 126: I'll talk in just a second

01:26:15 Speaker 126: about our regional marketing and summer

01:26:17 Speaker 126: students, but Great Roots we have

01:26:19 Speaker 126: had a banner year at Great

01:26:20 Speaker 126: Roots. We knew Dinosaurs was going

01:26:21 Speaker 126: to be big, but I think

01:26:22 Speaker 126: what gets all of our staff

01:26:26 Speaker 126: most excited is that when we

01:26:29 Speaker 126: see visitors coming in, whether they're

01:26:30 Speaker 126: residents or they're coming to the

01:26:33 Speaker 126: area, they're lured in by dinosaurs

01:26:36 Speaker 126: or whatever our travelling exhibit is.

01:26:38 Speaker 126: But when they leave, they tell

01:26:40 Speaker 126: us their favourite parts are our

01:26:41 Speaker 126: Great County Gallery. Are our Gray

01:26:43 Speaker 126: County Gallery and Morrison Heritage Village.

01:26:45 Speaker 126: So it's the things that we

01:26:47 Speaker 126: do every day, year-round. That's what

01:26:48 Speaker 126: they love the most, and that

01:26:51 Speaker 126: I think is really important to

01:26:53 Speaker 126: recognize the good work that staff

01:26:54 Speaker 126: have done, the fact that they

01:26:56 Speaker 126: are delivering what people are looking

01:26:58 Speaker 126: for, and we're helping tell the

01:27:00 Speaker 126: story of Gray County. So that's

01:27:03 Speaker 126: just a note that we wanted

01:27:04 Speaker 126: to make. And as I mentioned,

01:27:06 Speaker 126: with our lean projects, we've done

01:27:08 Speaker 126: a couple of really cool interactive

01:27:09 Speaker 126: experiences this year. So the first,

01:27:11 Speaker 126: the Bob McDowell Memorial Railway is

01:27:12 Speaker 126: up and running. So you can

01:27:14 Speaker 126: now come and get railroad rides.

01:27:17 Speaker 126: It's not an everyday thing; it's

01:27:20 Speaker 126: a special occurrence. But this is

01:27:21 Speaker 126: something that we now offer at

01:27:22 Speaker 126: Gray Roots, which has been phenomenal.

01:27:25 Speaker 126: We had two hundred and fifty

01:27:28 Speaker 126: riders in the first event, another

01:27:30 Speaker 126: hundred in the following, and I

01:27:33 Speaker 126: think the last one was about

01:27:35 Speaker 126: one seventy-five. So when you see

01:27:38 Speaker 126: photos of it, it holds two

01:27:41 Speaker 126: little cars, basically an adult and

01:27:42 Speaker 126: two kids. So you can imagine

01:27:46 Speaker 126: how many rides is going around

01:27:48 Speaker 126: to get that many people on

01:27:49 Speaker 126: that train. But the village lean

01:27:51 Speaker 126: assessment really. demonstrated what we can

01:27:53 Speaker 126: do when we look at things

01:27:55 Speaker 126: differently. So we took the opportunity

01:27:57 Speaker 126: in 2024 to look at where

01:27:58 Speaker 126: the village operations were, what we

01:28:01 Speaker 126: could do with the volunteers and

01:28:02 Speaker 126: the staffing that we had, and

01:28:03 Speaker 126: really rethink what it was going

01:28:06 Speaker 126: to look like. And it was

01:28:09 Speaker 126: all new this year. So we

01:28:11 Speaker 126: now have guided village tours. We

01:28:13 Speaker 126: have historic demonstrations every day. We

01:28:14 Speaker 126: were still open seven days a

01:28:16 Speaker 126: week, still the same hours, and

01:28:18 Speaker 126: then we reduced our long. And

01:28:19 Speaker 126: then we reduced our volunteer shifts

01:28:21 Speaker 126: from two to one, so that

01:28:22 Speaker 126: way we weren't trying to constantly

01:28:24 Speaker 126: look and look and not be

01:28:27 Speaker 126: able to open buildings. So it

01:28:28 Speaker 126: was a better experience for volunteers,

01:28:30 Speaker 126: a better experience for our students,

01:28:32 Speaker 126: and a better experience for our

01:28:34 Speaker 126: visitors because everybody got to find

01:28:36 Speaker 126: something that they're passionate about and

01:28:38 Speaker 126: get involved in. And the numbers

01:28:40 Speaker 126: speak for themselves. So in the

01:28:41 Speaker 126: first four weeks of Morriston, and

01:28:42 Speaker 126: we'll have better numbers by the

01:28:44 Speaker 127: end of the summer, we had

01:28:49 Speaker 127: 85 demonstrators. We had 85 demonstrations,

01:28:50 Speaker 127: and 2,407 people came to participate

01:28:52 Speaker 128: in those. 51% of those observers

01:28:54 Speaker 129: actually got hands-on engaged with the

01:28:58 Speaker 129: demonstrations that were happening. Our students

01:28:59 Speaker 129: offered 42 personalized tours, and they

01:29:01 Speaker 129: hosted 197 participants in those first

01:29:02 Speaker 130: four weeks, including one tour fully

01:29:05 Speaker 130: in French. With the volunteer shifts,

01:29:06 Speaker 130: our buildings were filled, and all

01:29:08 Speaker 130: buildings have been open daily 92%

01:29:09 Speaker 130: of the time. So these are

01:29:12 Speaker 130: numbers we just haven't seen in

01:29:14 Speaker 130: here. Seen in Heritage Village, and

01:29:15 Speaker 130: I think it speaks a

01:29:17 Speaker 130: lot to everybody coming together to

01:29:20 Speaker 130: find a new way forward, which

01:29:21 Speaker 130: was phenomenal. And we're going to

01:29:22 Speaker 130: continue that next year. So they

01:29:24 Speaker 130: started debriefing yesterday, and the volunteer

01:29:25 Speaker 130: meeting's coming up next month. Last,

01:29:27 Speaker 130: but certainly certainly not least, we

01:29:30 Speaker 130: talked about roundtable sector trends and

01:29:37 Speaker 130: challenges. So downtown was a key

01:29:38 Speaker 130: component of that conversation, tying back

01:29:40 Speaker 130: to our own Sound Gather video.

01:29:43 Speaker 130: But we also talked about the

01:29:45 Speaker 130: mentality of we and the fact

01:29:46 Speaker 130: that in Gray County, we

01:29:48 Speaker 130: really. are a we can we

01:29:50 Speaker 130: do things together. It's not I.

01:29:54 Speaker 130: We're not competing with one another.

01:29:56 Speaker 130: We really are coming to the

01:29:59 Speaker 130: table as a collective and saying

01:30:01 Speaker 130: we can do things beyond what

01:30:04 Speaker 130: we think we can do. So

01:30:07 Speaker 130: that was a real conversation that

01:30:08 Speaker 130: we're proud of, something that we

01:30:09 Speaker 130: want to maintain and continue. But

01:30:10 Speaker 130: it was a great way to

01:30:11 Speaker 130: end the PDAC meeting. So any

01:30:13 Speaker 130: questions? Please let me know. Great,

01:30:15 Speaker 130: thank you. So we'll put it

01:30:17 Speaker 131: out there if there are. any

01:30:21 Speaker 131: members that have any questions for

01:30:23 Speaker 131: Director Myers or comments, indeed, there

01:30:24 Speaker 131: is a lot of energy in

01:30:26 Speaker 131: the room when everyone comes together

01:30:27 Speaker 131: like that, and they're able to

01:30:29 Speaker 131: share what's going on across our

01:30:30 Speaker 131: our county. Thank you. Well, with

01:30:32 Speaker 132: that, then I see no further

01:30:34 Speaker 132: questions on this matter. I'll call

01:30:36 Speaker 132: the question. All those in favour,

01:30:37 Speaker 132: and that motion is carried. Thank

01:30:40 Speaker 132: you. Okay. So next, we're going

01:30:42 Speaker 132: to go to the Agricultural Advisory

01:30:44 Speaker 132: Committee meeting minutes of September third,

01:30:46 Speaker 132: and Director Taylor is going to

01:30:48 Speaker 132: speak to that now. I just

01:30:50 Speaker 132: want to caution everyone: lunch is

01:30:52 Speaker 132: not until noon, so he is

01:30:53 Speaker 132: not speaking just before lunch. We

01:30:55 Speaker 132: will have a little bit more

01:30:57 Speaker 132: business after that. Oh, and let

01:31:00 Speaker 132: me just get the motion on

01:31:01 Speaker 132: the floor for you, Director Taylor.

01:31:05 Speaker 132: So, it's recommended that the Agricultural

01:31:07 Speaker 132: Advisory Committee meeting minutes, dated September

01:31:08 Speaker 132: third, twenty twenty-five, be adopted as

01:31:11 Speaker 132: presented, and the following resolutions contain.

01:31:12 Speaker 132: The following resolutions contained therein be

01:31:14 Speaker 132: endorsed: Number one, that report PDRAAC

01:31:15 Speaker 132: fifty six twenty five is received,

01:31:17 Speaker 132: and number two, that staff consider

01:31:20 Speaker 132: any further feedback received from the

01:31:22 Speaker 132: Agricultural Advisory Committee with respect to

01:31:23 Speaker 132: the county's nuisance beaver and coyote

01:31:25 Speaker 132: slash wolf bylaw reviews. And I

01:31:27 Speaker 132: know that Director Taylor will be

01:31:29 Speaker 132: speaking to that, so I'll look

01:31:30 Speaker 132: for a mover and a seconder

01:31:33 Speaker 132: to get it on the floor.

01:31:34 Speaker 132: Move by Councillor Dobrin, seconded by

01:31:36 Speaker 132: Councillor Eccles. It's now on the

01:31:39 Speaker 132: floor for discussion. Welcome, Director Taylor.

01:31:42 Speaker 132: Great, thanks, Madam Warden and members

01:31:43 Speaker 132: of council. There was a lot

01:31:46 Speaker 132: of excitement at the Agricultural Advisory

01:31:49 Speaker 132: Committee meeting too. I'll probably just

01:31:52 Speaker 132: present it in a slightly more

01:31:54 Speaker 132: monotone tone than Savannah did, but

01:31:56 Speaker 132: I'll do my best here to

01:31:58 Speaker 132: to bring the excitement from the

01:32:00 Speaker 132: room. the The first matter on

01:32:01 Speaker 132: the agenda was a report by

01:32:03 Speaker 132: Sarah Johnson, the county's trails and

01:32:05 Speaker 132: forestry coordinator, with respect to, as

01:32:07 Speaker 132: the Warden mentioned, the the updates

01:32:10 Speaker 132: on on the the review of

01:32:13 Speaker 132: the beaver and coyote wolf. bylaws,

01:32:16 Speaker 133: so as council may recall, we

01:32:19 Speaker 133: did have an open house at

01:32:20 Speaker 133: Greater Cultural Services in late April

01:32:22 Speaker 133: on this topic, and we also

01:32:23 Speaker 133: had a public meeting in these

01:32:25 Speaker 133: council chambers and in a hybrid

01:32:27 Speaker 132: fashion in in early May with

01:32:30 Speaker 132: respect to the bylaws. A number

01:32:32 Speaker 132: of of members of County Council

01:32:34 Speaker 132: were able to attend that that

01:32:36 Speaker 132: public meeting, and we just wanted

01:32:39 Speaker 132: to provide a further update to

01:32:41 Speaker 132: both council and and the Agricultural

01:32:43 Speaker 132: Advisory Committee with respect to the

01:32:46 Speaker 132: feedback we heard. Not only at

01:32:48 Speaker 132: that meeting but also in written

01:32:50 Speaker 132: form after the fact, I think

01:32:53 Speaker 132: if you attended the the public

01:32:55 Speaker 132: meeting, a lot of the comments

01:32:58 Speaker 132: were relatively well one sided. We

01:33:01 Speaker 132: heard a lot of really good

01:33:03 Speaker 132: comments from from people in the

01:33:05 Speaker 132: trapping community and people in the

01:33:06 Speaker 132: farm community. We heard comments about

01:33:08 Speaker 132: streamlining some of the processes under

01:33:10 Speaker 132: the bylaw to to under the

01:33:12 Speaker 132: bylaws plural, whether the beaver or

01:33:14 Speaker 132: the coyote, to make claims. We

01:33:16 Speaker 132: heard comments about licenced trappers and

01:33:18 Speaker 132: and their ability to control. populations

01:33:19 Speaker 132: in a humane way, which reduces

01:33:21 Speaker 132: the potential for starvation or disease.

01:33:23 Speaker 132: We heard topics about the population

01:33:26 Speaker 132: of both coyotes and beavers across

01:33:27 Speaker 132: the county, and anecdotally, those numbers

01:33:30 Speaker 132: remain at very high levels. Certainly,

01:33:32 Speaker 132: from the farm community, we heard

01:33:35 Speaker 132: that landowners need to be able

01:33:37 Speaker 132: to protect their property and livestock,

01:33:41 Speaker 132: and to a lesser extent, we

01:33:43 Speaker 132: also heard that with respect to

01:33:46 Speaker 132: flooding impacts related to beaver dams,

01:33:49 Speaker 132: we did hear about the impact.

01:33:51 Speaker 132: on on both infrastructure from flooding

01:33:53 Speaker 132: and and farmlands. We heard about

01:33:56 Speaker 132: the financial and mental mental health

01:33:58 Speaker 132: toll it takes on farmers when

01:33:59 Speaker 132: there is a livestock attack or

01:34:01 Speaker 132: kill in that regard, and and

01:34:04 Speaker 132: that's not to be underestimated. In

01:34:06 Speaker 132: in the public meeting, there was

01:34:07 Speaker 132: some some very from the heart

01:34:10 Speaker 132: comments that that came on that

01:34:12 Speaker 132: mental health impact, which was which

01:34:13 Speaker 132: was really interesting. We heard about

01:34:16 Speaker 132: the need for refinements to the

01:34:17 Speaker 132: programmemes and particular. To the programmemes,

01:34:20 Speaker 132: and particularly on on the coyote

01:34:21 Speaker 132: and wolf side, when there's been

01:34:23 Speaker 132: a kill and and there's no

01:34:26 Speaker 132: remains of the livestock and and

01:34:28 Speaker 132: the ability to still potentially present

01:34:30 Speaker 132: a claim if if there's no

01:34:34 Speaker 134: remains to be verified, and then

01:34:36 Speaker 134: we also heard some comments with

01:34:38 Speaker 134: respect to considerations for municipalities to

01:34:39 Speaker 132: update their own municipal bylaws regarding

01:34:43 Speaker 132: guardian dogs and hunting animals, and

01:34:44 Speaker 132: so then after the public meeting,

01:34:45 Speaker 132: we still had a significant

01:34:47 Speaker 132: comment period where people. could could

01:34:49 Speaker 132: submit comments in writing, and Sarah

01:34:51 Speaker 132: also received some phone calls on

01:34:52 Speaker 132: this. And and and there were

01:34:54 Speaker 132: some counterpoints to some of the

01:34:55 Speaker 132: the comments we heard at the

01:34:58 Speaker 132: public meetings. In fact, from some

01:35:00 Speaker 132: people we heard that when there

01:35:02 Speaker 132: are strains on a population, so

01:35:04 Speaker 132: strains with respect to either beavers

01:35:06 Speaker 132: or coyotes, it can in fact

01:35:09 Speaker 132: lead to higher birth rates and

01:35:11 Speaker 132: and therefore having a counter effect

01:35:14 Speaker 132: on on or the opposite effect

01:35:16 Speaker 132: on controlling populations. We heard the

01:35:19 Speaker 132: the comment. We heard the comments

01:35:20 Speaker 132: about the county should should further

01:35:23 Speaker 132: explore non-lethal control methods with respect

01:35:25 Speaker 132: to fencing in in the case

01:35:27 Speaker 132: of of coyotes, beaver baffles with

01:35:29 Speaker 132: respect to to protecting infrastructure in

01:35:31 Speaker 132: that regard, and also guardian animals.

01:35:32 Speaker 132: We heard comments about the current

01:35:34 Speaker 132: bylaws being barbaric in nature, particularly

01:35:36 Speaker 132: with respect to removing the ears

01:35:38 Speaker 132: and tails, with respect to needing

01:35:40 Speaker 132: to make a claim, and then

01:35:42 Speaker 132: we also heard comments about the

01:35:44 Speaker 132: term nuisance animals. is a very

01:35:46 Speaker 132: subjective term, and maybe not one

01:35:48 Speaker 132: appreciated by some. The one thing