Grey County Committee Meeting Transcript — November 20, 2025

00:00:13 Speaker 01: to call the meeting to order.

00:00:16 Speaker 01: The first item on the agenda

00:00:18 Speaker 01: is declaration of interest. Does anyone

00:00:20 Speaker 02: have any declarations of interest? Anyone?

00:00:29 Speaker 02: Okay. we do not have any

00:00:32 Speaker 02: delegations today, and we'll start with

00:00:36 Speaker 02: our items for direction or discussion.

00:00:40 Speaker 02: At the moment, we do not

00:00:42 Speaker 02: have quorum, so we'll move along

00:00:44 Speaker 02: with the items in the agenda.

00:00:47 Speaker 02: We're going to move to correspondence

00:00:50 Speaker 02: first, and we'll move to item

00:00:52 Speaker 02: number five B, the CEMC Collabourative.

00:00:58 Speaker 02: and I will hand this over

00:01:00 Speaker 02: to Brittany, our deputy clerk for

00:01:02 Speaker 03: the Grey County. Perfect. Thank you,

00:01:05 Speaker 03: Chair Schultz, and through you, I'd

00:01:07 Speaker 03: just like to share that the

00:01:08 Speaker 04: CRTC, which is the Canadian Radio,

00:01:10 Speaker 04: Television, and Telecommunications Commission, are

00:01:14 Speaker 04: making improvements to the National Public

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00:01:23 Speaker 04: the public about emergency situations. The

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00:01:28 Speaker 04: an emergency, threat of emergency, weather

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00:01:33 Speaker 04: of this alerting system. Public opinion

00:01:36 Speaker 04: research has shown that this alerting

00:01:37 Speaker 04: system is not accessible to persons

00:01:40 Speaker 04: with disabilities. So the commission is

00:01:42 Speaker 04: looking for comments that identify barriers

00:01:44 Speaker 04: for persons with disabilities and what

00:01:47 Speaker 04: the commission can do to prevent

00:01:48 Speaker 04: these barriers. If you have comments

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00:01:55 Speaker 04: platform, titled CRTC Conversations, and all

00:02:00 Speaker 04: submissions will become part of the

00:02:01 Speaker 04: public record. So I'd just like

00:02:03 Speaker 04: to share this, and I will

00:02:05 Speaker 04: send an email out after this

00:02:07 Speaker 04: meeting to the members to give

00:02:09 Speaker 04: them the link to that website

00:02:12 Speaker 04: where they can submit their submissions.

00:02:15 Speaker 05: Okay, thank you, Brittany. Thank you.

00:02:19 Speaker 05: So the next item on the

00:02:21 Speaker 02: agenda is item number four a.

00:02:23 Speaker 02: Township of Georgian Bluffs, Kemble and

00:02:27 Speaker 02: Sarawak Playground Design Concepts, and I

00:02:33 Speaker 02: will hand this over for discussion

00:02:35 Speaker 02: to Brittany Drury, Deputy Cao slash

00:02:41 Speaker 02: Director of Corporate Services at the

00:02:44 Speaker 02: Township of Georgian Bluffs. Thank you

00:02:49 Speaker 02: very much, and through your chair

00:02:50 Speaker 06: Schultz, hello. This is one of

00:02:53 Speaker 07: my this advisory committee. So nice

00:02:56 Speaker 07: to see some familiar faces. And

00:02:58 Speaker 07: for those of you that don't

00:02:59 Speaker 08: know me, hi. So on today's

00:03:02 Speaker 09: agenda, you'll see a report as

00:03:05 Speaker 10: well as two draft design plans

00:03:08 Speaker 11: for two upcoming park improvement projects

00:03:11 Speaker 11: that the township has budgeted for

00:03:13 Speaker 12: in 2024. You'll also note that

00:03:16 Speaker 12: the township has been successful in

00:03:18 Speaker 12: our CSRIF funding application to. facilitate

00:03:21 Speaker 12: both of these two projects. So

00:03:22 Speaker 12: we're very excited to get these

00:03:24 Speaker 13: two things going. As also included

00:03:26 Speaker 14: in the report, and just as

00:03:29 Speaker 14: an asterisk, before we commenced discussions,

00:03:30 Speaker 15: we have onboarded a landscape design

00:03:34 Speaker 15: consultant to help us through the

00:03:37 Speaker 15: planning process. That has drafted these

00:03:39 Speaker 15: designs, both to be compliant with

00:03:41 Speaker 16: the AODA and Annex H of

00:03:44 Speaker 16: the Canadian Standard for the Safety

00:03:46 Speaker 17: of Public Equipment. So, with that,

00:03:50 Speaker 18: I'll go briefly through the both

00:03:54 Speaker 18: both designs briefly, as well as

00:03:57 Speaker 18: where they're located, just for the

00:03:59 Speaker 19: committee's information. So, the first is

00:04:01 Speaker 19: located at Sarawak Family Park, which

00:04:03 Speaker 19: is a small three-acre parcel that's

00:04:05 Speaker 19: located along Gray Road One, that's

00:04:07 Speaker 20: separated by both the water and

00:04:10 Speaker 21: the roadway. Over the course of

00:04:13 Speaker 21: the past five or so years,

00:04:14 Speaker 22: the township has undertaken various In

00:04:18 Speaker 23: various accessibility improvements projects at the

00:04:22 Speaker 23: park, so these proposed playground

00:04:25 Speaker 24: structure improvements are there to facilitate

00:04:27 Speaker 25: or further improve upon the overall

00:04:30 Speaker 25: accessibility of the park and the

00:04:32 Speaker 26: space. Sarawak Family Park is most

00:04:34 Speaker 26: definitely our most frequented park in

00:04:36 Speaker 27: the summer months, so you'll note

00:04:39 Speaker 27: that the plans that we have

00:04:41 Speaker 28: drafted there are quite exciting and

00:04:45 Speaker 28: colourful, and I'm going to use.

00:04:46 Speaker 28: the word "exciting" a lot because

00:04:47 Speaker 28: we're really excited to get it

00:04:50 Speaker 29: going. So the concepts have been

00:04:54 Speaker 29: attached as the first attachment to

00:04:55 Speaker 30: the report, and you'll note that

00:04:57 Speaker 31: it incorporates a rubberized play surface

00:05:00 Speaker 31: that connects all of the surfaces,

00:05:02 Speaker 31: including the parking lot and all

00:05:03 Speaker 32: of the surrounding trail points. We're

00:05:06 Speaker 33: doing some work to the the

00:05:08 Speaker 33: parking lot as well to ensure

00:05:10 Speaker 33: that it's fully connected to the

00:05:12 Speaker 34: park and the proposed play structure.

00:05:17 Speaker 34: The second location is a brand

00:05:19 Speaker 35: new park that's located in Campbell.

00:05:21 Speaker 36: That's the kind of most northern

00:05:24 Speaker 36: centre of population for the township

00:05:26 Speaker 36: of Georgian Bluffs. It hasn't had

00:05:28 Speaker 37: a playground for some time, and

00:05:31 Speaker 37: we are proposing to move it

00:05:32 Speaker 37: to a different space than it

00:05:34 Speaker 38: had been located before. I was

00:05:37 Speaker 38: not born and raised in Gray

00:05:38 Speaker 39: County, but I've heard a lot

00:05:40 Speaker 39: about pumpkin chucking that used to

00:05:42 Speaker 40: happen at the Campbell site. so

00:05:45 Speaker 41: we're trying to honour its local

00:05:49 Speaker 41: tie by relocating an existing playground

00:05:51 Speaker 42: structure to the community. So you'll

00:05:54 Speaker 42: see, as attached to the in

00:05:56 Speaker 42: the second appendix to the report,

00:05:58 Speaker 43: we're proposing that the existing structure,

00:06:01 Speaker 43: the playground structure at Sarawak Family

00:06:03 Speaker 44: Park that is there currently today,

00:06:07 Speaker 45: be relocated to the Campbell site.

00:06:10 Speaker 45: So we're we're proposing a reuse

00:06:13 Speaker 45: again to. Use again to to

00:06:15 Speaker 45: prioritize a bit of environmental sustainability

00:06:16 Speaker 46: as well, and keep the plastics

00:06:18 Speaker 46: out of the landfills. But with

00:06:21 Speaker 46: that being said, there are safety

00:06:22 Speaker 47: requirements that the township will be

00:06:26 Speaker 48: observing to have that playground relocated.

00:06:30 Speaker 49: The playground equipment at Sarawak is

00:06:32 Speaker 50: fully accessible per the standards that

00:06:34 Speaker 51: I've outlined earlier in the report,

00:06:39 Speaker 52: and I will flag that the

00:06:42 Speaker 53: proposed surface will. Closed surface will

00:06:45 Speaker 54: be engineered wood fiber rather than

00:06:48 Speaker 55: the rubberized surface, strictly because of

00:06:52 Speaker 56: budget restrictions. But with that, I

00:06:54 Speaker 56: welcome any and all feedback from

00:06:56 Speaker 57: the committee to inform final designs.

00:06:58 Speaker 57: These are by no means final

00:07:00 Speaker 57: designs. I wanted to ensure that

00:07:02 Speaker 58: we had feedback of the committee

00:07:05 Speaker 59: prior to issuing an RFP or

00:07:07 Speaker 60: moving forward with construction. So, through

00:07:23 Speaker 60: you, Chair Schultz, that's all I

00:07:40 Speaker 60: have. Oh, Chair Schults, you're on

00:07:41 Speaker 61: mute. There we go. Not used

00:07:46 Speaker 61: to using someone else's computer. Sorry

00:07:48 Speaker 02: about that. Okay. Yeah. So, does

00:07:52 Speaker 02: thank you, Brittany, for that presentation.

00:07:54 Speaker 02: And does any of our members

00:08:02 Speaker 02: have any questions or comments for

00:08:04 Speaker 02: Brittany? I can see why you

00:08:06 Speaker 02: would be excited, Brittany. The designs

00:08:07 Speaker 02: are wonderful. I took a good

00:08:12 Speaker 02: look at them, and the equipment

00:08:16 Speaker 02: is is really nice with the

00:08:23 Speaker 02: concept that you've presented. So, good

00:08:25 Speaker 62: luck with all of that. Thank

00:08:29 Speaker 63: you so much, and thank you.

00:08:35 Speaker 64: You're welcome. Does anyone have any

00:08:38 Speaker 65: comments or concerns for Brittany? No,

00:08:44 Speaker 65: okay. Thank you, Brittany. We appreciate

00:08:45 Speaker 02: it. Okay, we'll move on to

00:08:48 Speaker 02: the second item on the agenda,

00:08:51 Speaker 02: that is item number four D,

00:08:52 Speaker 02: sorry four B, and it is

00:08:54 Speaker 02: the Town of the Blue Mountains

00:08:57 Speaker 02: Highway Twenty Six and Gray Road

00:09:01 Speaker 02: Two improvements, and Georgian Trail realignment,

00:09:04 Speaker 02: and the staff person is Prathy

00:09:05 Speaker 02: Desai. Daze, manager of capital projects

00:09:09 Speaker 02: at the town of the Blue

00:09:13 Speaker 66: Mountains, with consultants Alex and Khalid

00:09:17 Speaker 67: from Iguess Group. And I hope

00:09:21 Speaker 67: I pronounced that properly. Oh yeah,

00:09:24 Speaker 67: that's that's okay. Yeah, it's Alex

00:09:25 Speaker 67: Plowman here from from Iguess, just

00:09:27 Speaker 67: presenting on behalf of the town

00:09:32 Speaker 67: and I guess the the Ministry

00:09:34 Speaker 67: of Transportation as well. Khalid. Clad

00:09:37 Speaker 67: was double booked this afternoon, so

00:09:40 Speaker 67: unfortunately he he couldn't make it.

00:09:42 Speaker 68: But I'll I can give the

00:09:47 Speaker 68: the presentation and kind of work

00:09:48 Speaker 68: walk through the the project here.

00:09:49 Speaker 67: So I will share my screen.

00:09:53 Speaker 67: I think I got it figured

00:09:58 Speaker 67: out how to. We usually use

00:10:00 Speaker 67: Microsoft Teams, but I I think

00:10:01 Speaker 67: this should work. How's that looking

00:10:06 Speaker 67: for everybody? Can we see the?

00:10:08 Speaker 67: It's looking. I see some thumbs

00:10:11 Speaker 67: up. That's great. All right. Well,

00:10:14 Speaker 67: thanks everybody. As I mentioned earlier,

00:10:17 Speaker 67: my name is Alex Plowman, presenting

00:10:19 Speaker 67: this from from me. Just consulting

00:10:23 Speaker 67: on behalf of the the Ministry

00:10:26 Speaker 67: Transportation, and the town of the

00:10:27 Speaker 67: Blue Mountains. So this this project,

00:10:29 Speaker 67: we've got a couple intersections under

00:10:35 Speaker 67: this project, but the one that

00:10:36 Speaker 67: we'll focus on today is. the

00:10:37 Speaker 67: intersection of Highway 26 and Gray

00:10:40 Speaker 67: Road 2. So just to give

00:10:45 Speaker 67: an idea of where we are

00:10:47 Speaker 67: in the world here, we're about

00:10:50 Speaker 67: a kilometre east of Thornbury along

00:10:54 Speaker 69: Highway 26, and then you can

00:11:01 Speaker 67: see the Georgian Trail, kind of

00:11:03 Speaker 67: running along the north side of

00:11:07 Speaker 67: Highway 26 within our project limits

00:11:09 Speaker 67: here. So the scope of this

00:11:12 Speaker 67: project, we are going to be

00:11:16 Speaker 67: installing traffic signals at the intersection

00:11:19 Speaker 67: of Highway 26 and Gray Road

00:11:21 Speaker 67: 2. We'll also be realigning the

00:11:24 Speaker 67: the Georgian Trail. Currently, the Georgian

00:11:27 Speaker 67: Trail crosses east of the existing

00:11:29 Speaker 67: Highway 26 and and Gray Road

00:11:32 Speaker 67: 2 intersection at an unsignalized cross.

00:11:33 Speaker 67: At an unsignalized crossing, and for

00:11:34 Speaker 67: those of you who have been

00:11:37 Speaker 67: been biking or skiing along that

00:11:40 Speaker 67: trail, especially if you have young

00:11:42 Speaker 67: kids or anything like that, you

00:11:44 Speaker 67: probably know it's it's not a

00:11:46 Speaker 67: great location to cross the highway.

00:11:47 Speaker 67: It's in between two horizontal curves

00:11:49 Speaker 67: on the highway, so sight lines

00:11:53 Speaker 67: are a little bit restricted there.

00:11:55 Speaker 67: So, kind of the intent of

00:11:57 Speaker 67: this project is to to bring

00:12:01 Speaker 67: the Georgian Trail over to the

00:12:04 Speaker 67: intersection, cross at the signal. Cross

00:12:06 Speaker 67: at the signalized intersection where where

00:12:10 Speaker 67: traffic can be stopped and and

00:12:12 Speaker 67: users can safely cross the trail

00:12:14 Speaker 67: there. Another component of this project

00:12:17 Speaker 67: is is installing a new north

00:12:22 Speaker 67: leg to the intersection. So that's

00:12:24 Speaker 67: a road that travels up and

00:12:27 Speaker 67: connects with the the existing lakeshore

00:12:29 Speaker 69: road up there. It's mostly residential

00:12:37 Speaker 70: up there, a little couple bit

00:12:41 Speaker 70: small businesses. And then also just

00:12:43 Speaker 70: installing left turn lanes, just to

00:12:47 Speaker 70: support the traffic operations moving through

00:12:51 Speaker 70: the new signalized intersection. So just

00:12:53 Speaker 70: zooming in on the the proposed

00:12:57 Speaker 70: Georgian Trail realignment, as you can

00:12:58 Speaker 70: see, the existing Georgian Trail currently

00:13:01 Speaker 70: crossing east of the intersection. That

00:13:06 Speaker 70: crossing will be. decommissioned as part

00:13:09 Speaker 70: of the scope of work, and

00:13:12 Speaker 70: then the new trail will travel

00:13:15 Speaker 70: on the south side of Highway

00:13:17 Speaker 70: 26 over towards the the signalized

00:13:21 Speaker 60: intersection. It'll cross at the intersection,

00:13:30 Speaker 60: cross Highway 26, and then cross

00:13:32 Speaker 71: the proposed North Leg and Lakeshore

00:13:36 Speaker 71: Road, and then from there it'll

00:13:38 Speaker 70: tie into the the existing Jordan

00:13:41 Speaker 70: Trail, travelling west. Trail travelling westerly

00:13:43 Speaker 70: towards the town of Thornbury. So,

00:13:46 Speaker 70: a couple of the the old

00:13:48 Speaker 70: rigs that we looked at, just

00:13:51 Speaker 70: kind of keying in on the

00:13:52 Speaker 70: specific sections here. We did review

00:13:55 Speaker 70: sections eighty point six to eighty

00:13:58 Speaker 70: point fifteen for recreational trails, just

00:13:59 Speaker 70: with respect to the the Georgia

00:14:02 Speaker 70: Trail main. line, a couple of

00:14:03 Speaker 70: the highlights from the act. There

00:14:06 Speaker 70: we did look at the the

00:14:09 Speaker 70: minimum clear widths, the the grading

00:14:12 Speaker 70: of the trails. So that would

00:14:14 Speaker 70: be like your maximum cross slopes

00:14:17 Speaker 70: and your maximum running slopes, as

00:14:20 Speaker 70: stated in the act. And then

00:14:21 Speaker 70: we did look at the the

00:14:24 Speaker 70: gate opening requirements in the act

00:14:26 Speaker 70: as well. In terms of the

00:14:28 Speaker 70: Highway 26 crossing itself, we applied.

00:14:31 Speaker 70: the standards from the exterior passive

00:14:36 Speaker 70: travel sections of the act, so

00:14:37 Speaker 70: that's eighty point two one through

00:14:39 Speaker 70: eighty point three one, and some

00:14:44 Speaker 70: of the highlights from there. We're

00:14:47 Speaker 70: just looking at the the rest

00:14:55 Speaker 70: areas, the curb ramp requirements. So

00:14:58 Speaker 70: kind of from the sidewalk down

00:15:01 Speaker 70: to the actual asphalt surface where

00:15:04 Speaker 70: users will be crossing the the

00:15:06 Speaker 70: roads, and then the pedestrian control

00:15:09 Speaker 70: signals at each of the the

00:15:11 Speaker 70: crossing locations there. In terms of

00:15:15 Speaker 70: the the configuration of the proposed

00:15:17 Speaker 70: Georgian Trail, looking at our profile

00:15:19 Speaker 70: or the running slope, so that's

00:15:22 Speaker 70: kind of our steepness in the

00:15:24 Speaker 70: direction of travel. Generally, ranges from

00:15:26 Speaker 70: point five to two percent. Cross

00:15:28 Speaker 70: slopes are two percent. I believe

00:15:30 Speaker 70: we have one section that the

00:15:34 Speaker 70: cross slope is three percent, but

00:15:36 Speaker 70: generated around two percent. And then

00:15:42 Speaker 70: there is one section of the

00:15:45 Speaker 70: the trail that gets a little

00:15:49 Speaker 70: bit steeper. It's not quite five

00:15:51 Speaker 70: percent. It's like four point seven,

00:15:55 Speaker 70: four point eight, just as it's

00:16:00 Speaker 70: following the proposed Lake Shore North

00:16:01 Speaker 70: leg profile. And then. 4.5 metre

00:16:03 Speaker 70: clear width, so it gives users

00:16:06 Speaker 70: plenty of room for passing or

00:16:08 Speaker 70: crossing each other in opposing directions.

00:16:11 Speaker 70: And then there will be adjustable

00:16:13 Speaker 70: swing gates. These are the same

00:16:15 Speaker 70: gates that the Town of Blue

00:16:17 Speaker 70: Mountains uses on all of their

00:16:18 Speaker 70: other existing trail crossings. So it'll

00:16:21 Speaker 70: just be matching that same format

00:16:23 Speaker 70: and and. when they're fully closed,

00:16:25 Speaker 72: like they have a minimum opening

00:16:34 Speaker 70: of point nine metres, there they

00:16:37 Speaker 70: can be adjusted and opened up

00:16:39 Speaker 70: for like to get the trail

00:16:42 Speaker 70: groomers in there for maintaining the

00:16:45 Speaker 70: trails throughout the winter months. But

00:16:48 Speaker 70: generally, they're they're at a point

00:16:50 Speaker 70: nine metre opening there. In terms

00:16:54 Speaker 70: of the crossing there at the

00:16:56 Speaker 70: Highway Twenty Six intersection. At the

00:16:58 Speaker 70: Highway 26 intersection itself, there will

00:17:00 Speaker 70: be paved rest areas installed. So

00:17:04 Speaker 70: any users that cross Highway 26,

00:17:09 Speaker 70: waiting for the signals to change

00:17:13 Speaker 70: to cross to Lakeshore, they

00:17:15 Speaker 70: will have ample space, like a

00:17:20 Speaker 70: like a flat paved area for

00:17:23 Speaker 70: them to to rest on and

00:17:26 Speaker 70: and wait for those signals to

00:17:30 Speaker 70: change. We'll also be including concrete

00:17:34 Speaker 70: sidewalk ramps, as per. OPSD three

00:17:36 Speaker 70: ten point oh three zero,

00:17:40 Speaker 70: and then also including accessible pedestrian

00:17:42 Speaker 70: signals, as per OPSD two five

00:17:49 Speaker 70: five eight. The OPSDs; these are

00:17:51 Speaker 70: the Ontario Provincial Standard drawings. These

00:17:54 Speaker 70: are included on on majority of

00:17:57 Speaker 70: ministry projects. It's kind of their

00:18:00 Speaker 70: their standard standard items that they

00:18:04 Speaker 70: include at any. signalized intersections that

00:18:07 Speaker 70: we're anticipating, or that we have

00:18:10 Speaker 70: pedestrian infrastructure installed, and then just

00:18:13 Speaker 70: going through, we've got some tables

00:18:16 Speaker 70: here just showing the specific sections

00:18:18 Speaker 70: of the act and and the

00:18:22 Speaker 70: requirements therein that that we're meeting

00:18:24 Speaker 70: with our design here. So, looking

00:18:28 Speaker 70: at first the the Jordan Trail

00:18:30 Speaker 70: mainline, so that's the recreational trail

00:18:31 Speaker 70: sections of the act. There's minimum

00:18:34 Speaker 70: clear widths of one metre in

00:18:36 Speaker 70: the act. We're meeting that with

00:18:38 Speaker 70: a 4.5 metre clear width in

00:18:41 Speaker 70: the proposed design. Similarly with the

00:18:44 Speaker 70: trail gates, they do give some

00:18:46 Speaker 70: spacing requirements from 0.85 to one

00:18:48 Speaker 70: metres. We're kind of right in

00:18:54 Speaker 70: that range with the 0.9 metre

00:18:59 Speaker 70: gate opening. and then there is

00:19:03 Speaker 70: maximum cross slopes and running slopes

00:19:04 Speaker 70: that that we are within that

00:19:08 Speaker 70: tolerance. Generally, we're within 0.5 to

00:19:10 Speaker 70: 2% for our our running slopes

00:19:13 Speaker 70: and 2% for our cross slopes

00:19:15 Speaker 70: throughout the proposed trail design. And

00:19:20 Speaker 70: then for the actual Highway 26

00:19:22 Speaker 70: crossing itself, the Ontario standard drawings

00:19:24 Speaker 70: are. Standard drawings are—they meet the

00:19:27 Speaker 70: the minimum clear widths for the

00:19:29 Speaker 70: ramp requirements of 1.2 metres. Similarly,

00:19:31 Speaker 70: with the the maximum slopes for

00:19:36 Speaker 72: the ramps being 10% within the

00:19:46 Speaker 73: act, we're well within that range

00:19:48 Speaker 73: of 2 to 2.5%. And then

00:19:52 Speaker 73: there is some various height and

00:19:54 Speaker 73: spacing requirements for the the pedestrian

00:19:56 Speaker 73: signals, but the the standards that

00:19:58 Speaker 73: the ministry carries do meet all

00:20:00 Speaker 73: the requirements in the acts. and

00:20:02 Speaker 73: we are providing rest areas at

00:20:04 Speaker 74: the the intersection crossings there. So

00:20:09 Speaker 74: that's that's everything that I had

00:20:11 Speaker 74: to to present today, and definitely

00:20:23 Speaker 75: happy to receive any questions or

00:20:28 Speaker 75: or comments to to pass on

00:20:32 Speaker 76: to the to the design team

00:20:34 Speaker 76: if there's any additional requirements. we

00:20:35 Speaker 76: should we should be aware of,

00:20:37 Speaker 76: and happy to consider including them

00:20:39 Speaker 76: in our in our project here.

00:20:40 Speaker 76: Okay, thank you, Alex. Any of

00:20:42 Speaker 76: our members have any questions or

00:20:44 Speaker 76: comments for Alex? Anyone? Kathy. Thank

00:20:45 Speaker 76: you, Chair Schultz. Maybe can you

00:20:49 Speaker 76: take the the slide, Alex? Oh,

00:20:51 Speaker 75: yep. Okay. Sorry, I wasn't sure

00:20:54 Speaker 75: if it was only me that

00:20:57 Speaker 75: couldn't see anybody. Okay. Yeah. No,

00:21:02 Speaker 75: that's okay. I just want to

00:21:04 Speaker 75: say thanks very much for coming

00:21:06 Speaker 75: to present on this. This I

00:21:09 Speaker 75: think it was really well done.

00:21:12 Speaker 75: I really like the way that

00:21:14 Speaker 75: you referenced the legislation, and it

00:21:16 Speaker 75: looks like everything has been well

00:21:20 Speaker 77: considered, and I'm grateful for that.

00:21:23 Speaker 78: I also want to remind everybody

00:21:27 Speaker 78: that although it's just the voting

00:21:31 Speaker 79: committee members who are able to

00:21:33 Speaker 79: vote in a meeting, all of

00:21:35 Speaker 02: our municipal members are able to

00:21:37 Speaker 02: join in the conversation, and in

00:21:39 Speaker 02: fact, anybody else who's joining in

00:21:41 Speaker 02: the meeting has is welcome to

00:21:43 Speaker 80: share thoughts or questions. That's all

00:21:49 Speaker 80: I have. Thank you. Thank you,

00:21:50 Speaker 80: Kathy. Well put. Thanks, Kathy. Happy

00:21:53 Speaker 80: to happy to be here. And

00:21:55 Speaker 81: and I my I totally agree

00:21:57 Speaker 81: with what Kathy has said as

00:22:00 Speaker 81: well. It was well well done,

00:22:02 Speaker 81: well presented, and I thank you

00:22:05 Speaker 81: for that, Alex. And I believe

00:22:07 Speaker 81: that Pruthvi, you had your hand

00:22:09 Speaker 82: up. Yeah. Thanks, Catherine. And I

00:22:12 Speaker 83: just wanted to myself, Pruthvi. I'm

00:22:17 Speaker 84: a manager capital projects. at the

00:22:20 Speaker 84: Town of the Blue Mountains here.

00:22:22 Speaker 84: Just wanted to thank Alex and

00:22:30 Speaker 85: the team at EGIS and MTO

00:22:32 Speaker 85: for taking lead on this, and

00:22:35 Speaker 85: appreciate you guys coming up here

00:22:36 Speaker 86: and presenting on behalf of the

00:22:38 Speaker 86: town. That's very appreciable. Thank you,

00:22:40 Speaker 86: Alex. Thank you, Kathy. You're welcome.

00:22:42 Speaker 87: Thanks, Praty. And again, I'll ask

00:22:45 Speaker 87: if anybody has any comments, just

00:22:47 Speaker 88: in case. we miss anyone. Oh,

00:22:49 Speaker 89: yes, Scott. Scott, did you have

00:22:51 Speaker 89: there? There we go. Okay, good.

00:22:54 Speaker 90: Thank you very much, Alex. Just

00:22:56 Speaker 90: a couple questions, really, to orientate

00:22:59 Speaker 90: me, and I, you'd certainly help

00:23:02 Speaker 91: me with the one comment. But

00:23:05 Speaker 91: as I blow up the schematics

00:23:06 Speaker 92: here, if I could just ask

00:23:11 Speaker 92: you just for a little more

00:23:13 Speaker 92: clarity, if I'm going eastbound. on

00:23:15 Speaker 92: Highway 26, I believe I see

00:23:16 Speaker 93: a straight through, a right turn,

00:23:19 Speaker 93: and there's a green area. Is

00:23:21 Speaker 94: that a dedicated left lane? There's

00:23:24 Speaker 94: also a similar green area on

00:23:26 Speaker 95: County Road 2, but I can't

00:23:28 Speaker 95: make out if it's a dedicated

00:23:31 Speaker 95: left. Um, and westbound, I think

00:23:32 Speaker 96: I see a straight through and

00:23:35 Speaker 96: a right turn. So my first

00:23:38 Speaker 96: question is, if you could just.

00:23:41 Speaker 96: explain that a little more for

00:23:42 Speaker 96: me, and I've got a little

00:23:45 Speaker 96: feedback. Sorry, but part two is

00:23:48 Speaker 96: I did have a question about

00:23:49 Speaker 97: the running slope at five percent

00:23:53 Speaker 97: and where that was located. But

00:23:54 Speaker 67: I think you answered that in

00:23:57 Speaker 67: stating that it's a part of

00:23:59 Speaker 67: the existing trail as it's already

00:24:04 Speaker 67: on Lakeshore. So that was the

00:24:07 Speaker 67: other question. If you could just

00:24:10 Speaker 67: confirm that it's on the

00:24:12 Speaker 67: existing portion. as I see it

00:24:15 Speaker 67: on the map, and not the

00:24:16 Speaker 67: new. Thanks. Yes. So, for the

00:24:21 Speaker 67: in terms of the the kind

00:24:24 Speaker 67: of green hatched areas, yeah, you

00:24:30 Speaker 67: are correct. Those are are dedicated

00:24:33 Speaker 67: left turning lanes. I guess to

00:24:35 Speaker 67: be more specific, those are proposed

00:24:38 Speaker 67: dedicated left turning lanes. So, in

00:24:44 Speaker 67: the eastbound direction, coming towards the

00:24:46 Speaker 67: intersection along Highway 26. Twenty-six. There

00:24:48 Speaker 67: will be a new left turning

00:24:51 Speaker 67: lane travelling north onto the new

00:24:55 Speaker 67: Lakeshore Road connection that will be

00:24:57 Speaker 67: installed. And then, similarly, along Gray

00:25:03 Speaker 67: Road two coming northbound, there will

00:25:04 Speaker 67: be a new dedicated left turning

00:25:06 Speaker 98: lane installed. If you want to

00:25:09 Speaker 98: travel west towards Thurinbury, and then.

00:25:11 Speaker 98: in the westbound direction on Highway

00:25:13 Speaker 98: 26, there is already a left

00:25:14 Speaker 98: turn lane there, so that will

00:25:15 Speaker 98: just be maintained and resurfaced through

00:25:17 Speaker 99: this this project with new asphalt

00:25:20 Speaker 100: and pavement markings. I guess before

00:25:23 Speaker 100: I move on to the second

00:25:25 Speaker 101: part of the question, does that

00:25:29 Speaker 101: does that kind of help with

00:25:32 Speaker 101: with the first question there? I

00:25:37 Speaker 101: think it does. I'm just—I wanted

00:25:38 Speaker 101: to be certain. I was looking

00:25:41 Speaker 102: at when I think of more

00:25:46 Speaker 103: rural cross sections with lights and

00:25:49 Speaker 104: people crossing. We're often dealing with

00:25:52 Speaker 104: higher speeds, so I just want

00:25:55 Speaker 70: to be certain that the the

00:25:57 Speaker 70: proper protection mechanisms are in place

00:25:59 Speaker 70: to protect pedestrians against cars speeding

00:26:02 Speaker 70: into left-hand turns or just those

00:26:04 Speaker 70: quick turning movements that can happen

00:26:06 Speaker 70: at higher speeds than than. maybe

00:26:09 Speaker 70: in urban centres. Yeah, there will

00:26:10 Speaker 70: be the the dedicated left turning

00:26:14 Speaker 70: lanes there, and then there is

00:26:15 Speaker 70: kind of the standard concrete barrier

00:26:17 Speaker 70: curb will be installed throughout the

00:26:20 Speaker 70: intersections, and then we will have

00:26:28 Speaker 70: kind of those rest areas so

00:26:29 Speaker 101: that users that are that are

00:26:33 Speaker 101: accessing the trail they will be

00:26:34 Speaker 101: able to kind of offset themselves

00:26:38 Speaker 67: further away. from the traffic than

00:26:40 Speaker 67: maybe in an urban scenario, so

00:26:44 Speaker 67: they're not kind of jammed right

00:26:47 Speaker 67: up against the the live lanes

00:26:50 Speaker 67: of traffic there. That's kind of

00:26:53 Speaker 67: another another feature of the the

00:26:57 Speaker 67: paved rest areas. And and the

00:27:00 Speaker 67: second part was just confirming that

00:27:03 Speaker 67: the the running slope of five

00:27:06 Speaker 67: percent was on an existing portion

00:27:07 Speaker 67: of the lakeshore. The Lake

00:27:09 Speaker 67: Shore Trail part. So it is

00:27:13 Speaker 67: actually part of the proposed proposed

00:27:18 Speaker 67: trail, and it's a portion of

00:27:20 Speaker 67: the trail. Kind of as it

00:27:21 Speaker 67: travels north along the proposed Lake

00:27:23 Speaker 67: Shore North Lake, it is matching

00:27:26 Speaker 67: the alignment of the the proposed.

00:27:28 Speaker 67: Or sorry, I guess matching the

00:27:30 Speaker 67: the profile of the proposed North

00:27:32 Speaker 67: Lake. there is quite a bit

00:27:33 Speaker 67: of a grade difference between the

00:27:36 Speaker 67: existing intersection platform and the existing

00:27:39 Speaker 67: Lakeshore Road that we'd be tying

00:27:42 Speaker 67: into. So that's where that kind

00:27:43 Speaker 67: of five percent comes up to.

00:27:45 Speaker 67: I think it's it's a small

00:27:49 Speaker 67: portion. I think it's thirty metres,

00:27:51 Speaker 67: and it varies. But the maximum

00:27:55 Speaker 67: slope at the steepest point along

00:27:56 Speaker 67: that thirty metre section is like

00:28:11 Speaker 105: four point seven or four point

00:28:18 Speaker 106: eight percent. 0.8 percent, and the

00:28:21 Speaker 106: reasoning for that is just because

00:28:23 Speaker 107: the the two platforms are kind

00:28:25 Speaker 107: of matching each other. So the

00:28:29 Speaker 108: the roadway and the trail are

00:28:34 Speaker 108: there's a barrier curb in between

00:28:35 Speaker 109: them, but just in terms of

00:28:37 Speaker 109: constructability, they will have like the

00:28:45 Speaker 02: same road base on them. So

00:28:50 Speaker 110: it's it's going to have similar

00:28:53 Speaker 110: grading across that section there.

00:29:11 Speaker 110: Okay.

00:29:14 Speaker 111: Anyone else have any comments? No,

00:29:18 Speaker 111: I don't see. Okay. Thank you,

00:29:20 Speaker 101: Alex and Prathy, for your presentation

00:29:24 Speaker 101: today. We greatly appreciate it, and

00:29:27 Speaker 101: good luck with the project. Thanks.

00:29:29 Speaker 101: You're welcome. Okay, we'll move on

00:29:31 Speaker 101: to the next item on the

00:29:33 Speaker 101: agenda, that is item number four

00:29:35 Speaker 101: C. CCR-JAAC-19-25 Municipal Accessibility Legislation, Gray

00:29:36 Speaker 101: County, and I'm going to hand

00:29:38 Speaker 101: this over to Cappy. Thank you,

00:29:40 Speaker 101: Cappy. Oh, sorry, Scott. Did you

00:29:42 Speaker 101: have your hand up? Well, I

00:29:43 Speaker 112: was just thinking this one doesn't

00:29:46 Speaker 112: seem to have the commenting. Like

00:29:48 Speaker 113: this had an actual motion for

00:29:51 Speaker 75: receipt. and I was just thinking

00:29:55 Speaker 75: that I was going to just

00:29:58 Speaker 75: make a motion to postpone this

00:30:00 Speaker 75: report to the next meeting. But

00:30:02 Speaker 75: then I then I thought, well,

00:30:05 Speaker 75: I can't make a motion to

00:30:08 Speaker 75: postpone anyway. We don't have quorum,

00:30:11 Speaker 75: so that's why the hand was

00:30:16 Speaker 75: up, and then the hand was

00:30:18 Speaker 75: down. Okay, I didn't see the

00:30:22 Speaker 75: hand go down, so I apologize

00:30:23 Speaker 75: for that. So through you, Chair

00:30:24 Speaker 75: Schultz, I think while there is

00:30:30 Speaker 75: a motion, it's it's to accept

00:30:32 Speaker 75: the report and that it's for

00:30:33 Speaker 114: information and that it's to share

00:30:36 Speaker 114: the information with the committee. So

00:30:38 Speaker 114: I don't think there's any decision

00:30:43 Speaker 114: making involved here. And if if

00:30:45 Speaker 115: it would be amenable to the

00:30:50 Speaker 115: committee to everybody to carry on

00:30:52 Speaker 115: and just present this, or if

00:30:54 Speaker 75: it's desired to move it to

00:30:57 Speaker 75: the next meeting, I'm happy to

00:31:00 Speaker 75: do that as well. Yeah, I

00:31:02 Speaker 75: am. I'm completely fine with that,

00:31:06 Speaker 75: Kathy. With you going ahead with

00:31:08 Speaker 75: it today, as long as everyone

00:31:09 Speaker 75: else feels the same way. Is

00:31:11 Speaker 75: there anyone that would object to

00:31:13 Speaker 75: this? Any members that would object

00:31:15 Speaker 75: to Kathy proceeding with this item?

00:31:17 Speaker 75: I don't see. Okay. So I

00:31:20 Speaker 75: would proceed, Kathy. Thank you. Okay.

00:31:21 Speaker 75: Thank you. Chair Schultz. Can everybody

00:31:23 Speaker 75: see the presentation? Okay, super. And

00:31:28 Speaker 75: with your blessing and permission,

00:31:33 Speaker 75: Chair Schultz, because this is a

00:31:36 Speaker 75: fairly meaty presentation, and because I

00:31:38 Speaker 75: know that if somebody has

00:31:41 Speaker 75: a question or a thought, it's

00:31:45 Speaker 75: an important question or thought. So

00:31:48 Speaker 75: instead of waiting to the end

00:31:51 Speaker 75: and perhaps losing that train of

00:31:54 Speaker 75: thought, please feel free to interrupt

00:31:56 Speaker 75: me and ask a question along

00:31:57 Speaker 75: the way or provide a comment

00:32:00 Speaker 75: along the way. if you so

00:32:03 Speaker 75: desire. So there's many areas of

00:32:06 Speaker 75: legislatively affecting locally, provincially, and federally.

00:32:12 Speaker 75: It's difficult to be aware of

00:32:14 Speaker 75: all the obligations, and there's compliance

00:32:17 Speaker 75: regulations for small businesses, large businesses,

00:32:20 Speaker 75: public sector organisations, and municipalities fall

00:32:21 Speaker 75: under the public sector organisations, and

00:32:23 Speaker 75: every. other person or organisation that

00:32:26 Speaker 75: provides goods or services to the

00:32:29 Speaker 75: public. So, I mean, there's a

00:32:30 Speaker 75: lot of things that we all

00:32:32 Speaker 75: have responsibilities for, and it's pretty

00:32:36 Speaker 75: challenging to tease out what it

00:32:38 Speaker 75: is that is required from

00:32:41 Speaker 75: a municipal perspective. Where, where,

00:32:47 Speaker 75: I know, oftentimes we get asked

00:32:48 Speaker 75: questions that fall outside of our

00:32:52 Speaker 75: jurisdiction, and those are. challenging. We're

00:32:53 Speaker 75: not going to talk about those

00:32:58 Speaker 75: today. We're just going to talk

00:32:59 Speaker 75: about what what is required from

00:33:02 Speaker 75: a municipal standpoint. And the reason

00:33:05 Speaker 75: why I've put this together now

00:33:08 Speaker 75: is because recently I was asked

00:33:12 Speaker 75: to present to a municipality

00:33:15 Speaker 75: on the benefits of belonging to

00:33:22 Speaker 75: a joint accessibility advisory committee, specifically

00:33:26 Speaker 75: with what municipal participation looks like.

00:33:29 Speaker 75: and what pieces of the legislation

00:33:30 Speaker 75: can be supported through being a

00:33:33 Speaker 75: member of the committee. So, attached

00:33:36 Speaker 75: to the report is a very

00:33:39 Speaker 75: fulsome chart with all of the

00:33:42 Speaker 75: legislation on it, and this particular

00:33:44 Speaker 75: PowerPoint is just going to address

00:33:46 Speaker 75: that piece that that can be

00:33:51 Speaker 75: assisted by being a municipal accessibility

00:33:54 Speaker 75: advisory committee member. so the butter

00:33:57 Speaker 75: yellow pieces of the report that

00:34:00 Speaker 75: those are the ones where legislation

00:34:02 Speaker 75: can be fulfiled through being a

00:34:07 Speaker 75: member of the AAC. The light

00:34:10 Speaker 75: gray ones are, in fact, pun

00:34:13 Speaker 75: intended, a gray area where consultation

00:34:16 Speaker 75: with the AAC isn't legislated, but

00:34:21 Speaker 75: it's best practice, and the white

00:34:24 Speaker 75: areas of the larger. report

00:34:26 Speaker 75: aren't addressed at all in this

00:34:30 Speaker 75: presentation. So the first piece of

00:34:33 Speaker 75: the legislation is to establish and

00:34:35 Speaker 75: continue an accessibility advisory committee. So

00:34:38 Speaker 75: yes, this is fulfiled by being

00:34:42 Speaker 75: a member of the GCJAAC. Municipalities

00:34:49 Speaker 75: with a population over ten thousand

00:34:53 Speaker 75: are required to have an

00:34:56 Speaker 75: accessibility advisory committee or to. participate

00:34:59 Speaker 75: in a joint accessibility advisory committee.

00:35:01 Speaker 75: The role of the committee is

00:35:04 Speaker 75: to advise council about the requirements

00:35:06 Speaker 75: and implementation of accessibility standards,

00:35:09 Speaker 75: and advise about the preparation of

00:35:12 Speaker 75: accessibility reports and any other matter

00:35:16 Speaker 75: that the council may ask for

00:35:18 Speaker 75: help with relating to the accessibility

00:35:22 Speaker 75: legislation. So, yes. joint AAC participation

00:35:25 Speaker 75: helps to meet that requirement. The

00:35:27 Speaker 75: next one is completion and submission

00:35:37 Speaker 75: of accessibility compliance reports. 2025 is

00:35:39 Speaker 75: a compliance reporting year for municipalities,

00:35:42 Speaker 75: so we will have to be

00:35:45 Speaker 75: doing this. And while it isn't

00:35:48 Speaker 75: legislated, the Ministry for Seniors and

00:35:51 Speaker 75: Accessibility encourages consultation with the AAC.

00:35:57 Speaker 75: So, where possible, the presentation of

00:35:59 Speaker 75: the compliance reports to the committee

00:36:03 Speaker 75: will help just with involvement. Nothing

00:36:06 Speaker 75: about us without us, and help

00:36:10 Speaker 116: with transparency and accountability. It is

00:36:15 Speaker 116: it's not legislated, but it's best

00:36:16 Speaker 75: practice. Council shall seek advice from

00:36:18 Speaker 75: the committee. when purchasing or significantly

00:36:20 Speaker 75: renovating a building, structure, or premises,

00:36:24 Speaker 75: or part of a building, structure,

00:36:26 Speaker 75: or premises. This is for the

00:36:29 Speaker 75: publicly owned buildings, and municipal staff

00:36:31 Speaker 75: would then do a report to

00:36:33 Speaker 75: committee to seek committee's advice on

00:36:34 Speaker 75: the accessibility component. And so, yes,

00:36:39 Speaker 75: this is another requirement. that is

00:36:42 Speaker 75: facilitated by being a member. How

00:36:44 Speaker 75: how am I doing so far?

00:36:47 Speaker 75: Have I have I lost anybody

00:36:49 Speaker 75: yet? I know it's heavy stuff.

00:36:51 Speaker 75: So sorry about that, everybody. The

00:36:54 Speaker 75: council shall seek advice from the

00:37:01 Speaker 75: committee on the accessibility for persons

00:37:03 Speaker 75: with disabilities to a building structure

00:37:07 Speaker 75: or premise, or part of a

00:37:09 Speaker 75: building structure or premises when entering

00:37:13 Speaker 75: into a new lease. To a

00:37:16 Speaker 75: new lease, so this is if

00:37:21 Speaker 75: the municipality owns the property and

00:37:24 Speaker 75: is leasing it to a third

00:37:26 Speaker 75: party, or if the municipality is

00:37:31 Speaker 75: leasing from a third party. So

00:37:34 Speaker 75: this is another one. Yes, it

00:37:37 Speaker 75: would be met by presenting to

00:37:40 Speaker 75: the AAC, develop, implement, and maintain

00:37:43 Speaker 75: policies governing provision of goods, services,

00:37:49 Speaker 75: or. facilities, this is not legislated,

00:37:51 Speaker 75: but it's best practice to involve

00:37:55 Speaker 75: your AAC in reviewing policies where

00:37:59 Speaker 75: they pertain to persons with disabilities.

00:38:04 Speaker 75: Then we get into the Planning

00:38:08 Speaker 75: Act. There's a pretty substantial piece

00:38:11 Speaker 75: in the report that outlines the

00:38:18 Speaker 75: exact requirements from the Planning Act.

00:38:22 Speaker 75: but basically the overview is: it

00:38:25 Speaker 75: says municipalities have the ability to

00:38:27 Speaker 75: say when they want the accessibility

00:38:30 Speaker 75: advisory committee's input. And in 2019,

00:38:31 Speaker 75: Council, Gray County Council, endorsed a

00:38:32 Speaker 75: resolution from this committee that the

00:38:34 Speaker 75: site plan applications connected to newly

00:38:37 Speaker 75: developed or redeveloped public spaces. municipal

00:38:40 Speaker 75: offices, community centres, rec centres, and

00:38:44 Speaker 75: sports facilities need to come to

00:38:49 Speaker 75: the AAC for review and comment.

00:38:51 Speaker 75: We're required to keep a multi-year

00:38:59 Speaker 75: accessibility plan that outlines strategies to

00:39:01 Speaker 75: prevent and remove barriers. We need

00:39:03 Speaker 75: to post the plan on the

00:39:08 Speaker 75: website. we need to review it

00:39:11 Speaker 75: and update it at least once

00:39:13 Speaker 75: every five years, and we need

00:39:17 Speaker 75: to prepare and publicly post an

00:39:19 Speaker 75: annual accessibility status report on the

00:39:22 Speaker 75: progress of the plan. So, the

00:39:26 Speaker 75: municipalities will present to the committee

00:39:29 Speaker 75: for review and comment, and that

00:39:32 Speaker 75: will meet that obligation in 2023.

00:39:35 Speaker 75: and they haven't done any follow-up

00:39:37 Speaker 75: since then. The Ministry of Tourism,

00:39:38 Speaker 75: Culture, and Sport requested municipally owned

00:39:40 Speaker 75: museum applicants to submit a copy

00:39:44 Speaker 75: of their current accessibility plan along

00:39:46 Speaker 75: with their applications. So this did

00:39:48 Speaker 75: happen, and Jill from Gray Roots

00:39:56 Speaker 75: presented to this committee in

00:40:01 Speaker 75: 2023, and we adopted, which was

00:40:07 Speaker 75: endorsed by council. Following that, the

00:40:09 Speaker 75: museum's multi-year accessibility plan, which is

00:40:17 Speaker 75: now part of the Gray County

00:40:19 Speaker 75: multi-year accessibility plan, we don't know

00:40:25 Speaker 75: if this is going to come

00:40:30 Speaker 75: up again, or and they haven't

00:40:31 Speaker 75: spoken about reporting on progress. But

00:40:39 Speaker 75: I think we can just capture

00:40:40 Speaker 75: it through the Gray County multi-year

00:40:44 Speaker 75: accessibility plan. Municipalities. must consult with

00:40:47 Speaker 75: the with their accessibility advisory committees

00:40:48 Speaker 75: about acquiring, designing self-service kiosks, and

00:40:52 Speaker 75: when constructing new service counters or

00:40:53 Speaker 75: replacing existing service counters, and before

00:40:55 Speaker 75: building or making major changes

00:40:59 Speaker 75: to existing recreational trails. The committee

00:41:02 Speaker 75: can help to determine the amenities

00:41:04 Speaker 75: that are needed on the trail

00:41:10 Speaker 75: for accessibility, also outdoor play spaces

00:41:14 Speaker 75: and the design and placement of

00:41:18 Speaker 75: rest areas. When making changes to,

00:41:25 Speaker 75: it's in the legislation as exterior

00:41:29 Speaker 75: paths of travel, but what they're

00:41:31 Speaker 75: saying is sidewalks. It's been. really

00:41:37 Speaker 75: good to see that we've got

00:41:41 Speaker 75: lots of participation from local municipalities,

00:41:43 Speaker 75: bringing these reports to committee for

00:41:44 Speaker 75: review and comment, and the good

00:41:48 Speaker 75: input that they receive from this

00:41:51 Speaker 75: committee is well received. When constructing

00:41:52 Speaker 75: new or redeveloping existing outdoor play

00:41:59 Speaker 75: spaces, so again, playgrounds and

00:42:02 Speaker 75: stuff like that. Conventional transportation,

00:42:06 Speaker 75: bus shelters, and bus stops need

00:42:10 Speaker 75: need to be considered by the

00:42:11 Speaker 75: committees. And if if an an

00:42:14 Speaker 75: external party is providing the building

00:42:16 Speaker 75: of the bus shelter, they need

00:42:22 Speaker 75: to come and present to the

00:42:25 Speaker 75: committee beforehand so that the committee

00:42:30 Speaker 75: can provide the. committee can provide

00:42:33 Speaker 75: their their input on what would

00:42:36 Speaker 75: help to meet the needs of

00:42:38 Speaker 75: accessibility. Every municipality shall

00:42:41 Speaker 75: consult with its municipality municipal

00:42:43 Speaker 75: accessibility advisory committee in determining the

00:42:46 Speaker 75: proportion of on-demand accessible taxicabs. So,

00:42:48 Speaker 75: not a lot of our local

00:42:55 Speaker 75: municipalities do licensing of taxicabs, but

00:43:02 Speaker 117: these need to come to the

00:43:06 Speaker 117: AA. The AAC, and then this

00:43:08 Speaker 117: last slide is just a link

00:43:14 Speaker 117: to the province's suggestion. It says,

00:43:15 Speaker 117: "Consult the committee. We encourage you

00:43:17 Speaker 118: to consult with your accessibility advisory

00:43:19 Speaker 118: committee about how to implement the

00:43:21 Speaker 118: province's accessibility standards, the preparation of

00:43:22 Speaker 118: your municipality's accessibility compliance reports, and

00:43:24 Speaker 119: any other matters." where the committee's

00:43:27 Speaker 119: advice would be helpful. You made

00:43:28 Speaker 119: it through, everybody! Yay! That was

00:43:30 Speaker 119: great, Kathy. Thank you. Does anyone

00:43:34 Speaker 119: have any questions or comments for

00:43:36 Speaker 119: Kathy? I see Margaret's got her

00:43:37 Speaker 119: hand up. Hi, hi, everybody. I

00:43:40 Speaker 119: hope you can hear me. This

00:43:41 Speaker 119: is my name's Margaret Nicholson, and

00:43:43 Speaker 119: I asked Kathy if I could

00:43:45 Speaker 120: sit in today. I'm from the

00:43:51 Speaker 121: city of St. Catharines, and I've

00:43:54 Speaker 121: been in this position six months.

00:43:56 Speaker 121: So you can imagine I'm doing

00:43:58 Speaker 121: a lot of catch up, and

00:43:59 Speaker 122: I just really appreciated Kathy how

00:44:04 Speaker 117: succinct that presentation was and clear.

00:44:06 Speaker 117: And I just want to say

00:44:14 Speaker 123: I'm learning a lot just watching

00:44:16 Speaker 123: your AAC meetings. Thank you so

00:44:18 Speaker 124: much for just letting me sit

00:44:20 Speaker 117: in and listen. Really great. good

00:44:23 Speaker 125: stuff. Good on you, Gregg County.

00:44:27 Speaker 02: Well, thank you, Margaret, and congratulations

00:44:29 Speaker 02: on your new position. Thank you.

00:44:32 Speaker 126: And we were happy to have

00:44:36 Speaker 127: you today. Oh well, thanks very

00:44:39 Speaker 127: much. It was it was really

00:44:41 Speaker 127: great. Thanks. You're welcome. Does anyone

00:44:44 Speaker 127: else have any questions for Kathy

00:44:47 Speaker 127: or comments? No. Okay. Well done,

00:44:48 Speaker 127: Kathy. Thank you. Thank you. We'll

00:44:53 Speaker 127: move on to the next item,

00:44:55 Speaker 127: which is an item number four

00:44:58 Speaker 127: D, West Gray Front Counter Renovations,

00:44:59 Speaker 127: and I will hand this over

00:45:02 Speaker 127: for presentation to Michelle Harris, the

00:45:04 Speaker 127: CAO of the Municipality of West

00:45:07 Speaker 127: Gray. Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you

00:45:10 Speaker 127: for having me. I am delighted.

00:45:13 Speaker 127: to be able to present this

00:45:15 Speaker 127: report to you for your review.

00:45:18 Speaker 127: It's unfortunate that we've had to

00:45:20 Speaker 127: bring it. We recently had a

00:45:23 Speaker 127: fairly hostile, aggressive member of the

00:45:24 Speaker 127: public come into our office, and

00:45:27 Speaker 127: there's some timeliness. As you can

00:45:30 Speaker 127: understand, our staff are fairly nervous

00:45:31 Speaker 127: now. There was a gun threat

00:45:34 Speaker 127: that was posed at the time—not

00:45:36 Speaker 127: an actual gun, but a gun

00:45:38 Speaker 127: threat—and. Threat and so we we've

00:45:41 Speaker 127: it forced us sometimes bad circumstances

00:45:43 Speaker 127: force you to look at potential

00:45:46 Speaker 127: vulnerabilities and we realize well I

00:45:48 Speaker 127: don't have photos included there is

00:45:53 Speaker 127: a drawing included with our package

00:45:55 Speaker 127: and when you walk into our

00:45:57 Speaker 127: front lobby of the municipality the

00:46:01 Speaker 127: entire front area is open to

00:46:04 Speaker 127: the public we have our regular

00:46:05 Speaker 127: counters there are no barriers on

00:46:08 Speaker 127: both the left and right side

00:46:10 Speaker 127: of the count. Side of the

00:46:14 Speaker 127: counter entrance, we have doors into

00:46:15 Speaker 127: the back administrative area, which are

00:46:17 Speaker 127: not locked. They do have signs

00:46:19 Speaker 127: that say "restricted access," but there's

00:46:21 Speaker 127: no restriction there. So, what we

00:46:25 Speaker 127: are proposing is putting keypads on

00:46:28 Speaker 127: the doors to the left and

00:46:31 Speaker 127: right of the entrance. Both those

00:46:34 Speaker 127: staff access areas have accessibility pads,

00:46:35 Speaker 127: so the doors automatically open with

00:46:39 Speaker 127: the push of a button. and

00:46:40 Speaker 127: with the installation of the keypad

00:46:43 Speaker 127: restricted access, we would still maintain

00:46:46 Speaker 127: those accessible accesses. Nothing would change,

00:46:48 Speaker 127: other than there would be a

00:46:49 Speaker 127: restricted code, and the keypad would

00:46:52 Speaker 127: be accessible for any staff member

00:46:54 Speaker 127: that is required for it. Additionally,

00:46:58 Speaker 127: on the drawing, our current accessible

00:47:01 Speaker 127: height counter is on the right

00:47:04 Speaker 127: side of the counter. We are

00:47:06 Speaker 127: proposing making that the same. height

00:47:10 Speaker 127: as the rest of the counter,

00:47:13 Speaker 127: and moving the accessibility side over

00:47:14 Speaker 127: to the left. So we'll be

00:47:19 Speaker 127: lowering the counter over to the

00:47:21 Speaker 127: left, which provides more private access

00:47:22 Speaker 127: for people who need it. Because

00:47:23 Speaker 127: right now the accessible counter is

00:47:25 Speaker 127: almost at the doorway, so there's

00:47:27 Speaker 127: no sort of separate area to

00:47:28 Speaker 127: conduct business. All of the areas

00:47:29 Speaker 127: that we are proposing reconfiguration to

00:47:32 Speaker 127: will. Configuration too will have glass

00:47:39 Speaker 127: barriers that can open and close

00:47:41 Speaker 128: and provide restricted access if indeed

00:47:44 Speaker 129: we need to. But we believe

00:47:46 Speaker 129: it will make our staff feel

00:47:47 Speaker 130: more comfortable and just provide that

00:47:50 Speaker 130: barrier which we currently don't have.

00:47:52 Speaker 131: And that's really the sum of

00:47:55 Speaker 131: it. I wish I didn't have

00:47:57 Speaker 131: to do this. It's the state

00:48:00 Speaker 131: of our world right now. That

00:48:01 Speaker 02: you always like to think that

00:48:03 Speaker 02: you don't need to do worry

00:48:05 Speaker 02: about these things, but sadly. there

00:48:09 Speaker 02: we are. So, thank you, Michelle,

00:48:13 Speaker 02: for bringing that. And yes, it

00:48:15 Speaker 02: is very sad that you have

00:48:16 Speaker 02: to make these changes as a

00:48:25 Speaker 02: direct result of that threat. And

00:48:27 Speaker 132: I'm sorry to hear that. But

00:48:29 Speaker 132: you are doing the right thing,

00:48:31 Speaker 132: and you're putting in place protective

00:48:32 Speaker 133: measures, not only for your staff

00:48:35 Speaker 133: but for the general public as

00:48:36 Speaker 133: well. yeah, you know, coming into

00:48:37 Speaker 133: the building. So I commend you

00:48:39 Speaker 133: for taking this as seriously as

00:48:42 Speaker 133: you have. Thank you. Does anyone

00:48:43 Speaker 134: have any comments or questions for

00:48:46 Speaker 134: Michelle, based on what she's presented

00:48:52 Speaker 02: and what you've received in your

00:48:55 Speaker 02: agenda package? No. No. Okay. Well,

00:48:59 Speaker 02: thank you, Michelle. Thank you so

00:49:02 Speaker 02: much, Chair Schultz, and the committee.

00:49:04 Speaker 02: and Kathy, thank you for your

00:49:09 Speaker 02: report. It was very informative, and

00:49:11 Speaker 02: I look forward to the fulsome

00:49:15 Speaker 02: ness of it at some point

00:49:17 Speaker 02: as well, and giving it a

00:49:20 Speaker 02: full review. But it was very

00:49:22 Speaker 02: helpful from a lower tier municipality

00:49:24 Speaker 135: perspective. Just a reminder of what

00:49:27 Speaker 135: our requirements are. So, thank you.

00:49:30 Speaker 135: My pleasure. Okay. So, it looks

00:49:34 Speaker 135: like the last item on the

00:49:35 Speaker 135: agenda is course. Is correspondence, and

00:49:37 Speaker 135: that's item number five, and five

00:49:39 Speaker 135: a is the city of Owen

00:49:42 Speaker 135: Sound site plan approvals, and I

00:49:43 Speaker 135: will. There's a number of site

00:49:44 Speaker 135: plan approvals on the list for

00:49:45 Speaker 136: correspondence. I will hand this over

00:49:50 Speaker 137: to Sabine, manager of planning and

00:49:54 Speaker 138: heritage, for the city of Owen

00:49:57 Speaker 138: Sound. Um, Chair Soltz, if I

00:49:59 Speaker 139: could, through you, um. Through you,

00:50:02 Speaker 140: Sabine is not with us at

00:50:05 Speaker 140: the meeting. I think she just

00:50:06 Speaker 141: wanted to have feedback, or sorry,

00:50:09 Speaker 142: not feedback. I think she just

00:50:13 Speaker 142: wanted to present the site plan

00:50:15 Speaker 142: approvals to the committee as correspondence,

00:50:17 Speaker 143: but she's not able to join

00:50:20 Speaker 144: us. So I think what we'll

00:50:22 Speaker 144: do is we'll just move that

00:50:24 Speaker 144: item to the next meeting. Okay,

00:50:26 Speaker 144: absolutely. Oh, Pam is here. Good

00:50:28 Speaker 144: afternoon, everyone. You know. In on

00:50:30 Speaker 144: sound are the matters of accessibility

00:50:32 Speaker 144: relating to site plans are plans

00:50:35 Speaker 144: are dealt with through a checklist

00:50:38 Speaker 144: because site plan approval is delegated

00:50:41 Speaker 145: to staff and it has a

00:50:43 Speaker 145: very short window for approval. The

00:50:47 Speaker 145: accessibility, the matters of accessibility that

00:50:49 Speaker 145: were relevant to the consideration and

00:50:50 Speaker 145: approval of each of these site

00:50:53 Speaker 145: plans was attached. I would note

00:50:54 Speaker 145: that you'll see on here. the

00:50:57 Speaker 145: own Saint Mary McDonald building, so

00:50:59 Speaker 145: it's a new storage building at

00:51:06 Speaker 62: our public works site. And we

00:51:10 Speaker 62: always tell developers we treat ourselves

00:51:17 Speaker 62: just like we treat you, so

00:51:19 Speaker 62: the rules apply equally to us.

00:51:21 Speaker 02: But there's a variety of different

00:51:24 Speaker 02: developments on there, from the TD

00:51:27 Speaker 02: Bank to some residential to a

00:51:30 Speaker 02: large new U-Haul building. So the

00:51:32 Speaker 02: information and site plans are there.

00:51:34 Speaker 02: I'm happy to take any questions.

00:51:41 Speaker 146: if the committee has them, and

00:51:48 Speaker 146: I would go back and say

00:51:49 Speaker 146: on the Georgian Bluffs playgrounds, I'm

00:51:50 Speaker 146: really envious of both those designs.

00:51:52 Speaker 146: Well done! So, thank you, Pam.

00:51:55 Speaker 02: Does anyone have any questions or

00:51:59 Speaker 02: comments for Pam? I certainly looked

00:52:01 Speaker 147: at all the site plans. and

00:52:04 Speaker 148: I do not have any questions

00:52:07 Speaker 149: or comments to make, Pam. Thank

00:52:11 Speaker 149: you for bringing this to the

00:52:13 Speaker 149: committee. We greatly appreciate it. I'll

00:52:20 Speaker 149: ask one more time: Does anyone

00:52:22 Speaker 149: have any questions or comments for

00:52:24 Speaker 149: Pam? No. Okay. Thank you, Pam.

00:52:26 Speaker 150: We greatly appreciate it. Okay. I'll

00:52:29 Speaker 151: move on to the next item

00:52:35 Speaker 152: on the agenda, and that is

00:52:38 Speaker 152: other business.

00:52:38 Speaker 152: And I don't see any items on that agenda.

00:52:38 Speaker 152: So the last item would be item number seven, and our next meeting date will be wow, January twelfth, twenty twenty-six.

00:52:39 Speaker 152: Hard to believe we're that close.

00:52:39 Speaker 152: And I will call for an adjournment at this time.

00:52:39 Speaker 152: Okay.

00:52:39 Speaker 152: Thank you, everyone.

00:52:39 Speaker 152: It was great to see you, and I guess we'll see everybody in the new year.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Merry Christmas and happy new year.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: One more meeting till spring.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Yeah.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: There's optimism.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Yes.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Yeah.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Thanks, everyone.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Take care.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Have a great afternoon.

00:52:40 Speaker 152: Thank you.