• rozodru@piefed.world
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    2 days ago

    was this really an issue?

    When I lived in the US it was incredibly easy to overdraw at the bank due to how they process debits. This was naturally by design.

    Here in Canada I can’t even recall the last time I overdrew and got an NSF fee. the debits are processed differently here where it makes it almost impossible to overdraw. I’m by no means an expert on banking but I honestly don’t think I’ve ever overdrawn. If I didn’t have enough money it was just declined.

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      17 hours ago

      debits are processed differently here where it makes it almost impossible to overdraw.

      At the store, yes. If you have a PAW setup for your rent, utility, etc and it fails, you get an NSF, because it was based on the old chequing system.

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      2 days ago

      Did you read the post? 1/3 Canadians incur one of these fees per year, $600M annual savings. So yes, it’s an issue.

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        2 days ago

        apologies I just don’t understand how. If I tried to pay with something with my account, regardless of what bank it was, and even if I was $5 short the payment would just be declined. Sorry I just don’t get it.

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          2 days ago

          Bro have you never had a pre-authorized payment? My payments go out the day I get paid, but I don’t get paid till the afternoon, my account will be in the negative untill I get paid. If I don’t deposit money by midnight the payment bounces back and I incure a NSF from my bank.

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            2 days ago

            yes I have pre-auth payments and if I don’t have the money in my account they just don’t go through.

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              I get where you’re coming from. We have the means to verify funds before a transaction, so the NSF fee is like a service fee for checking the transaction, except only when there aren’t enough funds. The real fix should be NSF fees are illegal, and banks need to sort their shit out.

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              2 days ago

              That’s weird to me, but I’ve also been banking with my bank for over 20 years now plus it’s a credit union so maybe it’s different for me because of one of those things. A $45 NSF fee sucks man.

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                1 day ago

                yeah I didn’t mean my previous comments to be offensive or anything because I’ve generally never had a NSF fee and I use to be fairly broke fairly often. things either got paid or they didn’t. if there wasn’t enough money in the account well the transaction be it a debit or a pre-auth payment or whatever just didn’t go through so that’s why I’m just curious about it.

                Now when I lived in the US briefly? all the damn time I’d get nailed with NSF fees. so I know they suck. but here in Canada? I can’t recall ever getting one so I was honestly curious as to how they happened.

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          So here’s my experience with TD bank (which I left after this). I knew i had to spend some cash and have some for bills coming out at end of day. So in early morning I transferred money in from another TD account. Later in they day I checked and bills had come out and I still had a tiny bit left. Next day, I’m doing more banking and notice NSF fees. They had altered the timings so outgoing came out first thing, then my incoming transfer was end of day after multiple NSF fees. $45 each fee and interest charged on daily negative amount.

          I cancelled all my accounts, rrsp, insurance, etc with them and went to a credit union.