Owen Sound Council Meeting - Regular Meeting Transcript — June 15, 2026

00:00:09 Speaker 01: Good evening, everyone. This is On

00:00:10 Speaker 01: Sound City Council on June fifteen,

00:00:12 Speaker 01: two thousand and twenty-six. I call

00:00:15 Speaker 01: the meeting to order. I'm going

00:00:18 Speaker 01: to step out of the usual

00:00:20 Speaker 02: procedure just for a second. I

00:00:21 Speaker 02: want to read a statement. In

00:00:24 Speaker 02: August of two thousand and twenty-three,

00:00:25 Speaker 02: our community lost one of its

00:00:27 Speaker 02: members to a senseless act of

00:00:29 Speaker 02: violence. Shri from. Violence. Sharif Rahman

00:00:30 Speaker 02: was a husband, father, friend, volunteer,

00:00:34 Speaker 02: and business owner. At the time

00:00:36 Speaker 02: of Sharif's death, the city issued

00:00:38 Speaker 02: a statement affirming our confidence in

00:00:40 Speaker 02: our police services, that our police

00:00:42 Speaker 02: services would bring those involved to

00:00:45 Speaker 02: justice, and our own commitment here

00:00:46 Speaker 02: at City Hall to working to

00:00:48 Speaker 02: increase safety and public confidence in

00:00:49 Speaker 02: the River District. We now know

00:00:52 Speaker 02: the outcome: the legal proceedings against

00:00:54 Speaker 02: the men involved. I want to

00:00:56 Speaker 02: thank all the police officers involved

00:00:57 Speaker 02: in the investigation. Those involved

00:00:59 Speaker 02: in the investigation from several different

00:01:01 Speaker 02: police forces, members of the public

00:01:03 Speaker 02: who helped, and the justice system

00:01:06 Speaker 02: that brought us to this point.

00:01:07 Speaker 02: I also especially want to thank

00:01:09 Speaker 02: our community for all the ways

00:01:12 Speaker 02: that you came together to support

00:01:15 Speaker 02: Sharif's family and one another. In

00:01:16 Speaker 02: the wake of Sharif's death, there

00:01:19 Speaker 02: was uncertainty around the circumstances of

00:01:21 Speaker 02: his assault, and our efforts to

00:01:24 Speaker 02: respond to community fears in the

00:01:26 Speaker 02: unknown. There was an amplifying of

00:01:28 Speaker 02: stereotypes and assumptions. In our commitment

00:01:30 Speaker 02: to public safety, we drew

00:01:32 Speaker 02: a connection between this incident, crime

00:01:35 Speaker 02: prevention, homelessness, and addictions, and that

00:01:37 Speaker 02: was a mistake. It is clear

00:01:39 Speaker 02: that the early narratives that connected

00:01:41 Speaker 02: his death to homelessness and substance

00:01:44 Speaker 02: users was unfounded. In a few

00:01:46 Speaker 02: minutes, our city manager will present

00:01:48 Speaker 02: a report, which, with updates on

00:01:50 Speaker 02: steps the city has taken to

00:01:52 Speaker 02: fulfill our commitment to increasing public

00:01:55 Speaker 02: confidence downtown, as well as. the

00:01:57 Speaker 02: work that still needs to be

00:01:59 Speaker 02: done, the report acknowledges the challenge

00:02:02 Speaker 02: of conflicting narratives about our city

00:02:05 Speaker 02: in the River District. As we

00:02:08 Speaker 02: reflect on this tragedy and all

00:02:10 Speaker 02: that we've learned, I encourage everyone

00:02:12 Speaker 02: to continue to support the community

00:02:14 Speaker 02: and the downtown where Sharif made

00:02:16 Speaker 02: his life, and to live the

00:02:18 Speaker 02: generosity and kindness towards one another

00:02:20 Speaker 02: that he embodied. In honor of

00:02:23 Speaker 02: both Sharif Rahman and his family,

00:02:24 Speaker 02: I hope this will be. the

00:02:26 Speaker 02: beginning of deeper healing for our

00:02:27 Speaker 02: community, and that we all show

00:02:29 Speaker 02: respect for all those around us,

00:02:32 Speaker 02: no matter what their challenges are.

00:02:34 Speaker 02: So, calling additional business. Looking down

00:02:39 Speaker 02: here. Thank you, Worship. I have

00:02:42 Speaker 02: three three items this evening. One,

00:02:44 Speaker 02: the Chamber of Commerce Business Excellence

00:02:47 Speaker 02: Awards. The second, plaque return for

00:02:49 Speaker 02: honoring our local veterans, and the

00:02:51 Speaker 02: third is the Law Enforcement Torch

00:02:53 Speaker 02: Run for Special Olympics. Deputy Mayor

00:02:56 Speaker 02: Gregg, I have one regarding the

00:02:57 Speaker 02: new score clock in memory of

00:03:00 Speaker 02: Bailey DeRocher at Tom Williams Park.

00:03:01 Speaker 02: Thank you. Looking that way, Council

00:03:04 Speaker 02: Farmer. I'll bring one item talking

00:03:06 Speaker 02: to the Gray Bruce Pride events

00:03:07 Speaker 02: parade and block party this past

00:03:10 Speaker 02: weekend. I've got a ton of

00:03:12 Speaker 02: stuff, but given the agenda tonight,

00:03:12 Speaker 02: I'm going to leave it till

00:03:13 Speaker 02: next meeting. I've been away and

00:03:15 Speaker 02: done lots of neat things on

00:03:17 Speaker 02: behalf of the city. Number four,

00:03:29 Speaker 02: confirmation of council minutes. Are there

00:03:31 Speaker 02: any declarations of interest? Go ahead.

00:03:33 Speaker 02: I do have one this this

00:03:35 Speaker 02: evening related to item number eight

00:03:38 Speaker 02: E one within the community services

00:03:42 Speaker 02: minutes, the Bayshore Upper Concourse use.

00:03:44 Speaker 02: Thank you. I do I do

00:03:48 Speaker 02: note that Councillor Dodd is not

00:03:51 Speaker 02: here tonight. he's dealing with a

00:03:53 Speaker 02: health issue. All other councilors are

00:03:54 Speaker 02: in their usual seats. Sorry, now

00:03:58 Speaker 03: over to you. Moved by myself,

00:04:00 Speaker 03: seconded by Councilor Middlebro, that the

00:04:02 Speaker 03: minutes of the following meetings be

00:04:06 Speaker 03: adopted as printed: first, closed session

00:04:08 Speaker 03: of the regular council meeting held

00:04:12 Speaker 03: on April 27, 2026, and second,

00:04:14 Speaker 03: regular council meeting held on May

00:04:19 Speaker 03: 25, 2026. All in favor. That

00:04:21 Speaker 03: is carried. Motion to move council

00:04:24 Speaker 03: into committee of the whole. Moved

00:04:28 Speaker 03: by myself, seconded by Councilor Middlebro,

00:04:29 Speaker 03: that City Council now move into

00:04:31 Speaker 03: committee of the whole to

00:04:35 Speaker 03: consider public meetings, deputations and presentations,

00:04:39 Speaker 03: public forum, matters arising from correspondence,

00:04:43 Speaker 03: reports of city staff, consent

00:04:46 Speaker 03: agenda, committee minutes, matters postponed, motion.

00:04:48 Speaker 03: Postponed motions for which notice was

00:04:51 Speaker 03: previously given, and additional business. Thank

00:04:54 Speaker 03: you. All in favor? That is

00:04:55 Speaker 03: carried. So we are now in

00:04:59 Speaker 03: committee. The whole at number six,

00:05:14 Speaker 02: we have a public meeting. Public

00:05:15 Speaker 02: meeting was with regard to. zoning

00:05:18 Speaker 02: bylaw amendment number fifty-eight one two

00:05:21 Speaker 02: zero one Fifteenth Avenue East or

00:05:25 Speaker 02: Eastcourt residents. I declare the public

00:05:27 Speaker 02: meeting open. We thank everyone for

00:05:29 Speaker 02: attending the public meeting. The purpose

00:05:32 Speaker 02: of this meeting is to receive

00:05:35 Speaker 02: input from public respecting the proposed

00:05:37 Speaker 02: amendments to the zoning bylaw per

00:05:40 Speaker 02: section thirty four of the Planning

00:05:41 Speaker 02: Act. In a few moments, the

00:05:43 Speaker 02: Manager of Planning and Heritage

00:05:44 Speaker 02: will present back. Planning and

00:05:47 Speaker 02: Heritage will present background information regarding

00:05:49 Speaker 02: the requested amendment. Following the presentation,

00:05:51 Speaker 02: we will hear from the applicant,

00:05:53 Speaker 02: and then we will open the

00:05:57 Speaker 02: floor for comments, questions, and feedback

00:06:00 Speaker 02: from the public. Every person who

00:06:01 Speaker 02: attends a statutory public meeting required

00:06:03 Speaker 02: under the Planning Act will be

00:06:07 Speaker 02: given an opportunity to make representations

00:06:10 Speaker 02: respecting the proposed bylaw. All submission

00:06:11 Speaker 02: materials for this application are available

00:06:13 Speaker 02: on the city's website and at

00:06:15 Speaker 02: the. Planning Division counter of the

00:06:19 Speaker 02: City Hall during the regular business

00:06:21 Speaker 02: hours. Appeal rights on a zoning

00:06:24 Speaker 02: bylaw amendment application are limited to

00:06:26 Speaker 02: the applicant, public bodies, and specified

00:06:29 Speaker 02: persons who made oral and written

00:06:33 Speaker 02: submissions to Onondaga City Council

00:06:36 Speaker 02: prior to a decision

00:06:41 Speaker 02: being made. Specified persons generally include

00:06:44 Speaker 02: energy, railway, and telecommunications. Communications providers.

00:06:46 Speaker 02: This meeting is an essential part

00:06:48 Speaker 02: of the decision-making process. Feedback received

00:06:51 Speaker 02: will be considered in the decision

00:06:53 Speaker 02: of Owen Sound City Council. An explanation

00:06:56 Speaker 02: of how the public and agency

00:06:57 Speaker 02: comments factored in the decision will

00:07:00 Speaker 02: be included in the notice of

00:07:02 Speaker 02: passing of the bylaw. Where a

00:07:03 Speaker 02: change is made in a proposed

00:07:06 Speaker 02: bylaw after the holding the public

00:07:08 Speaker 02: meeting, council will determine whether any

00:07:11 Speaker 02: further notice is to be given.

00:07:13 Speaker 02: respecting the proposed bylaw, and the

00:07:15 Speaker 02: determination of council as to the

00:07:17 Speaker 02: giving of further notice is final

00:07:18 Speaker 02: and not subject to review in

00:07:20 Speaker 02: any court, no matter the extent

00:07:22 Speaker 02: of the change made in the

00:07:26 Speaker 02: proposed bylaw. So I'll hand it

00:07:27 Speaker 02: over to Miss Bloomfield. Through your

00:07:29 Speaker 02: worship, notice of this public meeting

00:07:31 Speaker 04: was circulated to the prescribed persons

00:07:32 Speaker 04: and bodies and posted on the

00:07:35 Speaker 04: city's website and the subject property

00:07:36 Speaker 04: on May 22nd. All comments received

00:07:38 Speaker 04: in advance of the agenda publishing.

00:07:40 Speaker 04: deadline were attached to the agenda.

00:07:42 Speaker 04: One comment was received after the

00:07:44 Speaker 04: publication of the agenda and before

00:07:45 Speaker 04: the public meeting, which has been

00:07:47 Speaker 04: circulated to council and will be

00:07:50 Speaker 04: attached to the republished agenda following

00:07:51 Speaker 04: the meeting. One person registered to

00:07:54 Speaker 04: attend the meeting electronically, and they

00:07:55 Speaker 04: are online. For anyone here for

00:07:57 Speaker 04: the public meeting, please sign the

00:07:59 Speaker 04: sign-in sheet located on the table

00:08:01 Speaker 04: just outside of council chambers. Personal

00:08:02 Speaker 04: information collected at this public meeting

00:08:04 Speaker 04: is collected under the authority of

00:08:05 Speaker 04: the Planning Act, and the information

00:08:07 Speaker 04: collected will be used to complete

00:08:08 Speaker 04: the zoning bylaw amendment process and

00:08:10 Speaker 04: will form part of the public

00:08:12 Speaker 04: record. Questions about this collection should

00:08:13 Speaker 04: be addressed to myself, the city

00:08:15 Speaker 04: clerk. If you wish to be

00:08:16 Speaker 04: notified of the decision of the

00:08:17 Speaker 04: Corporation of the City of One

00:08:19 Speaker 04: Sound on the proposed zoning bylaw

00:08:20 Speaker 04: amendment application, you must make a

00:08:21 Speaker 02: written request to the City of

00:08:26 Speaker 02: One Sound, care of the city

00:08:28 Speaker 02: clerk. Good. Thank you. Next is

00:08:43 Speaker 02: a presentation from the city's manager

00:08:46 Speaker 02: of planning and heritage. Welcome. Thank

00:08:48 Speaker 02: you, and through you, Chair. Good

00:08:49 Speaker 02: evening, members of Council, staff, and

00:08:50 Speaker 02: members of the public. We are

00:08:52 Speaker 02: here this evening to hold

00:08:54 Speaker 05: a public meeting to gain input

00:08:57 Speaker 05: regarding zoning bylaw amendment number fifty-eight

00:08:59 Speaker 05: for a proposed residential apartment development

00:09:02 Speaker 05: at twelve oh one Fifteenth Avenue

00:09:03 Speaker 05: East. The applicant is Baker Planning

00:09:05 Speaker 05: Group on. This Baker Planning Group,

00:09:06 Speaker 05: on behalf of Ann Pet Realty

00:09:19 Speaker 05: and the owner, and their consultants

00:09:22 Speaker 05: are in attendance this afternoon. The

00:09:24 Speaker 05: property subject to the proposed development

00:09:27 Speaker 05: is twelve hundred one Fifteenth Avenue

00:09:29 Speaker 05: East. The property is located south

00:09:31 Speaker 05: of Fourteenth Street East, fronting on

00:09:33 Speaker 05: the turnaround bulb at the end

00:09:34 Speaker 05: of Fifteenth Avenue East. The property.

00:09:36 Speaker 05: also abuts 10th Street East to

00:09:38 Speaker 05: the south, but due to a

00:09:42 Speaker 05: significant grade change, no access is

00:09:44 Speaker 05: proposed from 10th Street East. Next

00:09:46 Speaker 05: slide, please. The property was previously

00:09:47 Speaker 05: known as Block 6 of the

00:09:49 Speaker 05: East Court subdivision. Block 6 is

00:09:50 Speaker 05: the final site to be

00:09:53 Speaker 05: developed in the subdivision, which was

00:09:56 Speaker 05: planned and developed with full municipal

00:09:58 Speaker 05: services, stormwater management, roads, and boulevard

00:10:00 Speaker 05: tree planting. In 2019, council approved

00:10:03 Speaker 05: official plan amendment number nine and

00:10:05 Speaker 05: zoning bylaw amendment. number twenty-seven to

00:10:07 Speaker 05: establish the policy framework for plan

00:10:08 Speaker 05: of subdivision forty-two T eighteen five

00:10:10 Speaker 05: hundred and one, which was which

00:10:11 Speaker 05: received final approval in two thousand

00:10:14 Speaker 05: and twenty. The city of Owen

00:10:15 Speaker 05: Sound entered into a subdivision agreement

00:10:17 Speaker 05: with the owner. Lots and blocks

00:10:20 Speaker 05: of the subdivision have been registered

00:10:22 Speaker 05: as plan sixteen M seventy-five. The

00:10:24 Speaker 05: overall subdivision is known as East

00:10:27 Speaker 05: Court Residences, and it includes a

00:10:30 Speaker 05: retirement residence and a mix of

00:10:31 Speaker 05: singles, semi-detached, and townhouse dwellings. Block

00:10:34 Speaker 05: Six has been planned for an

00:10:37 Speaker 05: apartment throughout the previous approval processes,

00:10:41 Speaker 05: and was anticipated to contain approximately

00:10:43 Speaker 05: one hundred and twenty dwelling units.

00:10:45 Speaker 05: Surrounding land uses include, to the

00:10:47 Speaker 05: north, residential and institutional uses, including

00:10:49 Speaker 05: Owen Sound Gardens and the Southbridge

00:10:51 Speaker 05: Long Term Care Home; to the

00:10:54 Speaker 05: east, vacant lands, commercial uses,

00:10:56 Speaker 05: and across Sixteenth Avenue East, Seasons

00:10:58 Speaker 05: Retirement Home; to the south, institutional

00:11:01 Speaker 05: uses, including Eastridge Community. School and

00:11:06 Speaker 05: Georgian College in student residences, and

00:11:08 Speaker 05: to the west, residential. Next slide.

00:11:10 Speaker 05: Through previous subdivision and policy applications,

00:11:13 Speaker 05: the subject property was created, designated,

00:11:15 Speaker 05: and zoned with the intent of

00:11:17 Speaker 05: a future apartment use. The subject

00:11:19 Speaker 05: property is located in the Sifton

00:11:21 Speaker 05: Heights Planning Area and designated residential

00:11:23 Speaker 05: high density in the 2021 ONSound

00:11:25 Speaker 05: Official Plan, which is in force

00:11:29 Speaker 05: and effect. And these designations remain

00:11:31 Speaker 05: the same in the. adopted official

00:11:33 Speaker 05: plan update OPA fourteen. Sittenhaid's

00:11:36 Speaker 05: planning area is planned to be

00:11:37 Speaker 05: a largely mixed use residential community.

00:11:40 Speaker 05: Permitted uses include residential, together with

00:11:41 Speaker 05: a mix of compatible institutional, commercial,

00:11:44 Speaker 05: and open space uses to support

00:11:46 Speaker 05: and service the local residential area.

00:11:48 Speaker 05: A site specific provision applies to

00:11:50 Speaker 05: the subject lands in the official

00:11:51 Speaker 05: plan in both versions. It permits

00:11:54 Speaker 05: a maximum residential density of one

00:11:57 Speaker 05: hundred and thirty units per hectare.

00:11:59 Speaker 05: The proposed density. is 128 units

00:12:01 Speaker 05: per hectare. The property is zoned

00:12:04 Speaker 05: general residential R5 by the 2010

00:12:05 Speaker 05: zoning bylaw. Once the 2026 zoning

00:12:08 Speaker 05: bylaw update comes into force and

00:12:10 Speaker 05: effect, the lands will be zoned

00:12:12 Speaker 05: medium density residential R2. In both

00:12:15 Speaker 05: bylaws, the permitted uses for the

00:12:16 Speaker 05: subject lands include apartment buildings. For

00:12:19 Speaker 05: apartment buildings, the maximum permitted height

00:12:20 Speaker 05: in the current R5 zone is

00:12:22 Speaker 05: 12 meters. Maximum building height for

00:12:23 Speaker 05: apartment buildings will be increased to

00:12:26 Speaker 05: 14 meters in the. R2 zone

00:12:29 Speaker 05: when the updated 2026 bylaw comes

00:12:31 Speaker 05: into force and effect. And council

00:12:33 Speaker 05: may remember that the height, maximum

00:12:39 Speaker 05: building height, was increased to 27

00:12:40 Speaker 05: meters in the MR zone. Next

00:12:42 Speaker 05: slide, please. So the

00:12:44 Speaker 05: purpose of this application is to

00:12:46 Speaker 05: facilitate the development of an eight-story

00:12:49 Speaker 05: residential apartment building containing 128 dwelling

00:12:50 Speaker 05: units and to permit community lifestyle

00:12:52 Speaker 05: facilities as an additional use, so

00:12:56 Speaker 05: that site amendments. Use so that

00:12:58 Speaker 05: site amenities can be made available

00:12:59 Speaker 05: to the general public. Next slide.

00:13:01 Speaker 05: The effect of the requested zoning

00:13:04 Speaker 05: bylaw amendment is to permit a

00:13:07 Speaker 05: community lifestyle facility as an additional

00:13:10 Speaker 05: permitted use, and to apply site-specific

00:13:13 Speaker 05: zoning provisions with respect to parking,

00:13:15 Speaker 05: building height, setbacks, floor space index,

00:13:17 Speaker 05: and accessory structures. Of particular note,

00:13:20 Speaker 05: the application is proposing an increased

00:13:22 Speaker 05: height to 28 meters or eight

00:13:24 Speaker 05: stories, and a 20. And a

00:13:26 Speaker 05: twenty-meter side yard setback from the

00:13:28 Speaker 05: westerly side yard. The westerly side

00:13:31 Speaker 05: yard is adjacent to the existing

00:13:34 Speaker 05: single-story townhouses. The increased setback is

00:13:35 Speaker 05: proposed in the context of the

00:13:37 Speaker 05: increased height. Next slide, please. The

00:13:40 Speaker 05: proposed apartment building will include one

00:13:41 Speaker 05: hundred and twenty-eight units and be

00:13:43 Speaker 05: eight stories in height. The planning

00:13:46 Speaker 05: justification report provided by the applicant

00:13:47 Speaker 05: in support of the application

00:13:49 Speaker 05: indicates that the developer proposes rental

00:13:53 Speaker 05: housing, including ten percent of the

00:13:55 Speaker 05: units meeting the. Canadian Mortgage and

00:13:56 Speaker 05: Housing Corporation definition of affordable. The

00:13:58 Speaker 05: report also identifies indoor and outdoor

00:13:59 Speaker 05: spaces. The owner is proposing to

00:14:02 Speaker 05: offer the residents of the immediate

00:14:05 Speaker 05: area, which are related to the

00:14:07 Speaker 05: community lifestyle facility, being requested as

00:14:12 Speaker 05: an additional use. And permitted uses

00:14:13 Speaker 05: can include potential woodworking space indoor

00:14:15 Speaker 05: and potential pickleball court outdoors. Next

00:14:22 Speaker 05: slide, please. So this is a

00:14:24 Speaker 05: view of the proposed development from

00:14:26 Speaker 05: the west. So those single-story townhouses

00:14:28 Speaker 05: will look across the parking lot

00:14:33 Speaker 05: to this side, and so the

00:14:34 Speaker 05: proposed building is pushed as far

00:14:36 Speaker 05: east as possible. Next slide, please.

00:14:43 Speaker 05: View. This is the view of

00:14:44 Speaker 05: the proposed development from Tenth

00:14:46 Speaker 05: Street East, looking north east. Next

00:14:47 Speaker 05: slide, please. The applicant has submitted

00:14:49 Speaker 05: a complete rezoning application. with the

00:14:51 Speaker 05: required supporting plans and studies as

00:14:56 Speaker 05: listed here. These items are all

00:14:57 Speaker 05: available for review on the city's

00:14:59 Speaker 05: website under active planning applications. Next

00:15:01 Speaker 05: slide. The process for the zoning

00:15:03 Speaker 05: bylaw amendment includes notices of a

00:15:04 Speaker 05: complete application and public meeting, which

00:15:06 Speaker 05: were given together by posting a

00:15:07 Speaker 05: sign on the subject property and

00:15:09 Speaker 05: by mailing to landowners within one

00:15:12 Speaker 05: hundred and twenty meters of the

00:15:14 Speaker 05: subject property on May twenty-two, two

00:15:16 Speaker 05: thousand and twenty-six. The technical report

00:15:18 Speaker 05: included in tonight's agenda is intended.

00:15:20 Speaker 05: to describe the proposed zoning bylaw

00:15:22 Speaker 05: amendment and outlines the key policy

00:15:26 Speaker 05: considerations of the provincial planning statement,

00:15:28 Speaker 05: and the county and city official

00:15:30 Speaker 05: plan relevant to the evaluation of

00:15:32 Speaker 05: the application. Next step or next

00:15:34 Speaker 05: slide, please. Staff will take the

00:15:36 Speaker 05: public, agency, and staff comments received

00:15:38 Speaker 05: through the process, including tonight, and

00:15:40 Speaker 05: review them in the policy context

00:15:42 Speaker 05: in the recommendation report. We expect

00:15:46 Speaker 05: to bring a recommendation report and

00:15:49 Speaker 05: enacting bylaw forward to council on

00:15:51 Speaker 05: July thirteen. Council on July thirteenth,

00:15:53 Speaker 05: twenty twenty-six. Thank you. Good. Thank

00:16:02 Speaker 05: you very much. I believe next

00:16:04 Speaker 05: we will have a presentation from

00:16:06 Speaker 05: Caroline Baker of Baker Planning Group.

00:16:07 Speaker 05: Oh, welcome. That's a good

00:16:09 Speaker 05: idea because I have a quiet

00:16:10 Speaker 05: voice, so nobody would hear me.

00:16:14 Speaker 05: My name is Caroline Baker. I'm

00:16:15 Speaker 05: a registered professional planner with Baker

00:16:17 Speaker 05: Planning Group. I'm here. Our planning

00:16:19 Speaker 05: group. I'm here this evening representing

00:16:20 Speaker 06: the owner, Peter Van Dolders, in

00:16:22 Speaker 06: the audience along with Jeff Johnson,

00:16:24 Speaker 06: part of the construction team. Certainly,

00:16:26 Speaker 06: a very comprehensive staff report. So

00:16:28 Speaker 06: I will try to not repeat

00:16:30 Speaker 06: some of the context and what

00:16:35 Speaker 06: you've already heard, but certainly appreciate

00:16:36 Speaker 06: staff's time and review of this

00:16:39 Speaker 06: zone change application to get to

00:16:41 Speaker 06: this public meeting this evening. Next

00:16:45 Speaker 06: slide. As noted, this site was

00:16:46 Speaker 06: part of a comprehensively planned plan

00:16:48 Speaker 06: of subdivision. Plan a subdivision that

00:16:51 Speaker 06: has been registered with a variety

00:16:54 Speaker 06: of land uses, including commercial and

00:16:55 Speaker 06: residential, as well as retirement. Trying

00:16:58 Speaker 06: to meet that full spectrum of

00:17:02 Speaker 06: housing, from independent to fully supported

00:17:05 Speaker 06: housing for the community. Certainly well

00:17:10 Speaker 06: connected in terms of position in

00:17:12 Speaker 06: the city, walkability to not only

00:17:14 Speaker 06: commercial uses. There is interconnected sidewalks,

00:17:16 Speaker 06: cycling route, and walkability to transit

00:17:18 Speaker 06: bus stop. Next slide. Just wanted

00:17:19 Speaker 06: to provide some context in terms

00:17:22 Speaker 06: of the site because it is

00:17:23 Speaker 06: unique in its topography as a

00:17:25 Speaker 06: result of the plan of subdivision.

00:17:28 Speaker 06: When we looked at Tenth Avenue,

00:17:30 Speaker 06: there was a fairly sizable retaining

00:17:31 Speaker 06: wall. I'm sure you're all very

00:17:33 Speaker 06: familiar with that. Translates to about

00:17:35 Speaker 06: three to four stories in height,

00:17:37 Speaker 06: which becomes very important when we

00:17:38 Speaker 06: look at the context of the

00:17:41 Speaker 06: architectural design of the proposed building,

00:17:45 Speaker 06: along with the urban design analysis

00:17:46 Speaker 06: that was under. Design analysis

00:17:49 Speaker 06: that was undertaken as part of

00:17:52 Speaker 06: the submission. This was obviously a

00:17:55 Speaker 06: very snowy day when the pictures

00:17:56 Speaker 06: were taken. Next slide, please. As

00:17:58 Speaker 06: part of the application, there was

00:18:00 Speaker 06: a comprehensive consulting team that included

00:18:02 Speaker 06: urban designers and architects. And looking

00:18:04 Speaker 06: really at the surrounding context, the

00:18:07 Speaker 06: purpose of this map really is

00:18:10 Speaker 06: to highlight what you heard earlier—that

00:18:13 Speaker 06: this is a mixed-use area. Again,

00:18:15 Speaker 06: trying to meet all those daily

00:18:17 Speaker 06: needs of the residents that live

00:18:19 Speaker 06: in the community. benefiting from institutional

00:18:21 Speaker 06: uses, commercial uses, parks, and open

00:18:23 Speaker 06: space. Next slide, please. You did

00:18:24 Speaker 06: see just a few moments ago

00:18:27 Speaker 06: the conceptual site plan that was

00:18:28 Speaker 06: provided as part of the zone

00:18:31 Speaker 06: change application. Certainly, we have worked

00:18:32 Speaker 06: as a team to be very

00:18:34 Speaker 06: thorough and detailed in terms of

00:18:37 Speaker 06: the site plan design. This is

00:18:39 Speaker 06: fairly close to a site plan

00:18:41 Speaker 06: application level of detail to ensure

00:18:44 Speaker 06: that we're meeting the requirements of

00:18:46 Speaker 06: the zoning. bylaw and providing that

00:18:48 Speaker 06: accurate justification and technical study. As

00:18:51 Speaker 06: noted, the building is proposed to

00:18:53 Speaker 06: be eight stories in height with

00:18:55 Speaker 06: one hundred and twenty-eight dwelling units.

00:18:56 Speaker 06: At this time, approximately twenty-five dwelling

00:18:59 Speaker 06: units would be one-bedroom, and the

00:19:01 Speaker 06: remainder would be two-bedroom. Would be

00:19:03 Speaker 06: a rental product geared towards older

00:19:06 Speaker 06: adults, and you'll see this in

00:19:08 Speaker 06: the design. In that there's a

00:19:11 Speaker 06: proposed woodworking room within the building.

00:19:13 Speaker 06: There is a planned room for

00:19:14 Speaker 06: a. planned room for scooter parking.

00:19:17 Speaker 06: They've included a pickleball court as

00:19:18 Speaker 06: well as extensive outdoor amenities, seating,

00:19:19 Speaker 06: and a pergola. Again, trying to

00:19:21 Speaker 06: provide those amenities to the residents.

00:19:23 Speaker 06: The owner would like to also

00:19:24 Speaker 06: give the option with these amenities

00:19:26 Speaker 06: to open them up to members

00:19:27 Speaker 06: of the public should they wish.

00:19:29 Speaker 06: I mean, certainly they are accessory

00:19:30 Speaker 06: to the proposed use and the

00:19:31 Speaker 06: residents that live there, but they

00:19:33 Speaker 06: didn't want to restrict others living

00:19:36 Speaker 06: in the community if, for example,

00:19:38 Speaker 06: they wanted to book a pickleball

00:19:41 Speaker 06: court, which is why you'll sort

00:19:44 Speaker 06: of see a. bit of the

00:19:46 Speaker 06: unique application we have in terms

00:19:47 Speaker 06: of the existing zoning. The proposal,

00:19:49 Speaker 06: in terms of the residential units,

00:19:52 Speaker 06: complies with the required off-street parking.

00:19:54 Speaker 06: There is both surface and underground

00:19:55 Speaker 06: parking that is proposed on the

00:19:57 Speaker 06: site. And what you'll see as

00:19:59 Speaker 06: we move through the application is

00:20:01 Speaker 06: there are two site-specific provisions proposed

00:20:02 Speaker 06: in the zoning that deal with

00:20:03 Speaker 06: the built form on the site,

00:20:05 Speaker 06: and that is building height and

00:20:07 Speaker 06: floor space index. and what the

00:20:09 Speaker 06: intent is as well. This meets

00:20:11 Speaker 06: this meets the official plan in

00:20:13 Speaker 06: terms of density. So the number

00:20:15 Speaker 06: of units are permitted on the

00:20:17 Speaker 06: site in terms of overall density.

00:20:19 Speaker 06: It really comes down to the

00:20:21 Speaker 06: built form, and the intent was

00:20:24 Speaker 06: to increase the building height but

00:20:26 Speaker 06: reduce its overall footprint. And so

00:20:27 Speaker 06: the number of units the same,

00:20:31 Speaker 06: but it's really the form. So

00:20:33 Speaker 06: it's really shrinking and going up

00:20:36 Speaker 06: into a higher building. This allows

00:20:37 Speaker 06: not only more at grade amenity

00:20:39 Speaker 06: space that. you might not see

00:20:41 Speaker 06: in other proposals allows for connected

00:20:44 Speaker 06: walkways and then facilitates and makes

00:20:46 Speaker 06: it viable for an underground parking

00:20:49 Speaker 06: structure, which, given the intended users

00:20:50 Speaker 06: of the site, is important in

00:20:53 Speaker 06: our winters that they have that

00:20:54 Speaker 06: have that option. What you'll also

00:20:56 Speaker 06: see on this conceptual site plan

00:20:58 Speaker 06: is the proposed building is set

00:21:01 Speaker 06: as far back really as it

00:21:03 Speaker 06: can be from the adjacent low-density

00:21:05 Speaker 06: residential uses. So on this plan,

00:21:08 Speaker 06: you'll see that there. is an

00:21:10 Speaker 06: actual setback of 75 meters from

00:21:12 Speaker 06: the proposed eight-story apartment building from

00:21:17 Speaker 06: the surrounding low density. This becomes

00:21:18 Speaker 06: very important in the urban design

00:21:20 Speaker 06: analysis around shadows and around angular

00:21:22 Speaker 06: plane for privacy and overlook to

00:21:25 Speaker 06: those already living in the community.

00:21:28 Speaker 06: Next slide. These are sample the

00:21:30 Speaker 06: elevations that will be submitted if

00:21:33 Speaker 06: the bylaw is approved as part

00:21:36 Speaker 06: of the site plan application. What

00:21:38 Speaker 06: you'll see is each. unit has

00:21:39 Speaker 06: their own private amenity area. The

00:21:41 Speaker 06: site plan translates to approximately twenty

00:21:44 Speaker 06: square meters per dwelling unit of

00:21:47 Speaker 06: amenity area. So that's both at

00:21:49 Speaker 06: grade within the woodworking and the

00:21:51 Speaker 06: amenities in the building, and then

00:21:53 Speaker 06: their private patios, giving them that

00:21:55 Speaker 06: combination of private space and public

00:21:57 Speaker 06: space for recreation. Next slide,

00:22:00 Speaker 06: please. Again, some of the sample

00:22:03 Speaker 06: building elevations, working with the architects

00:22:07 Speaker 06: and urban designers. to ensure that

00:22:08 Speaker 06: the building is articulated. So as

00:22:09 Speaker 06: we move to an eight-story building,

00:22:12 Speaker 06: there is both horizontal and vertical

00:22:14 Speaker 06: articulation through building materials, window placement,

00:22:16 Speaker 06: and the color palette. Next slide.

00:22:19 Speaker 06: Just going to take you through

00:22:20 Speaker 06: a series of images to highlight

00:22:22 Speaker 06: certain components of the concept plan.

00:22:24 Speaker 06: So this speaks to the amenities

00:22:26 Speaker 06: on the site. Just drawing attention

00:22:27 Speaker 06: to the proposed pickleball court, as

00:22:29 Speaker 06: well as the outdoor amenity area

00:22:30 Speaker 06: that. has the pergola, and certainly

00:22:33 Speaker 06: you will see that the zone

00:22:35 Speaker 06: change has asked for a pergola

00:22:36 Speaker 06: to be located in the front

00:22:38 Speaker 06: yard. This is a uniquely shaped

00:22:39 Speaker 06: site in terms of the zoning

00:22:41 Speaker 06: bylaw because of the cul-de-sac. So

00:22:42 Speaker 06: essentially, if we take the cul-de-sac,

00:22:43 Speaker 06: anything between the cul-de-sac and the

00:22:45 Speaker 06: building is considered the front yard,

00:22:47 Speaker 06: and anything that goes in it

00:22:49 Speaker 06: is considered the front yard. So

00:22:51 Speaker 06: even though the pergola is well

00:22:54 Speaker 06: set back at a per view

00:22:56 Speaker 06: of the street, it's just a

00:22:58 Speaker 06: nuance given the site shape that

00:23:00 Speaker 06: needs to be addressed in terms

00:23:02 Speaker 06: of the application. moving forward. Next

00:23:06 Speaker 06: slide. The next two were prepared

00:23:08 Speaker 06: with the assistance of landscape architects

00:23:12 Speaker 06: that have been included within the

00:23:14 Speaker 06: project team. Again, looking at the

00:23:16 Speaker 06: streetscape and how it can be

00:23:17 Speaker 06: articulated with not only manicured lawns

00:23:19 Speaker 06: and vegetation, but also trees for

00:23:20 Speaker 06: screening and shade. Next slide. And

00:23:22 Speaker 06: this highlights the overall intent in

00:23:25 Speaker 06: terms of tree plantings on the

00:23:27 Speaker 06: site. Now, certainly, this is a

00:23:30 Speaker 06: site plan level. detail that would

00:23:34 Speaker 06: be addressed at the time of

00:23:36 Speaker 06: site plan. But wanted to ensure

00:23:37 Speaker 06: that the proposal demonstrated it met

00:23:40 Speaker 06: the guidelines within the city related

00:23:42 Speaker 06: to tree planting and tree spacing.

00:23:45 Speaker 06: Next slide. We have spoken a

00:23:46 Speaker 06: little bit about the policy framework.

00:23:49 Speaker 06: So, as noted, this is in

00:23:50 Speaker 06: a special OP designation that allows

00:23:52 Speaker 06: the 130 units per hectare. And

00:23:53 Speaker 06: in working with staff, both determined

00:23:54 Speaker 06: that this development can. That this

00:23:57 Speaker 06: development conforms with your official plan,

00:23:58 Speaker 06: and the rezoning is to create

00:24:00 Speaker 06: the site specifics within the existing

00:24:01 Speaker 06: R five zone. Which, if you

00:24:03 Speaker 06: can go to next slide, if

00:24:06 Speaker 06: you don't mind, I'll just walk

00:24:07 Speaker 06: you through. So the first is

00:24:09 Speaker 06: permitting a community lifestyle facility, and

00:24:11 Speaker 06: this really gets back to my

00:24:13 Speaker 06: earlier comment about the woodworking facility

00:24:15 Speaker 06: and the pickleball. This is essentially

00:24:17 Speaker 06: to allow members of the public

00:24:19 Speaker 06: to use those facilities. There needs

00:24:23 Speaker 06: to be this additional permitted

00:24:25 Speaker 06: use; otherwise, it would just be

00:24:27 Speaker 06: considered accessory to the proposed residential

00:24:30 Speaker 06: use. so this just allows that

00:24:32 Speaker 06: flexibility if others want to use

00:24:34 Speaker 06: the facility. The second is removing

00:24:35 Speaker 06: off-street parking requirements for the community

00:24:37 Speaker 06: lifestyle facility, specifically just for the

00:24:40 Speaker 06: woodworking room. So the proposal does

00:24:42 Speaker 06: include additional parking for the pickleball

00:24:46 Speaker 06: court, if those wanted to drive

00:24:47 Speaker 06: and use it. Technically, somebody could

00:24:49 Speaker 06: use those as well for the

00:24:50 Speaker 06: woodworking, but again, because the use

00:24:54 Speaker 06: is largely accessory to those living

00:24:55 Speaker 06: there, as opposed to a recreation

00:24:58 Speaker 06: center, for example, this was felt

00:25:00 Speaker 06: as a balance of recognizing it

00:25:01 Speaker 06: as an accessory use, but also

00:25:03 Speaker 06: open to the public should they

00:25:06 Speaker 06: desire. As noted, allowing a maximum

00:25:08 Speaker 06: building height of eight stories or

00:25:10 Speaker 06: twenty-eight meters, and again, this idea

00:25:13 Speaker 06: was to slightly increase the building

00:25:15 Speaker 06: height to allow for more ground

00:25:17 Speaker 06: floor amenity and landscaping. In combination

00:25:19 Speaker 06: with the increased height, currently the

00:25:21 Speaker 06: R five zone requires a four-five

00:25:23 Speaker 06: meter side yard setback. and the

00:25:24 Speaker 06: applicant has self-initiated to propose to

00:25:28 Speaker 06: actually increase the yard setback to

00:25:29 Speaker 06: ensure that that building, if approved

00:25:32 Speaker 06: at an increased height, has a

00:25:34 Speaker 06: greater setback to low density. So

00:25:35 Speaker 06: there's clarity moving through the process

00:25:38 Speaker 06: that there will be that setback

00:25:39 Speaker 06: and space provided. In my experience

00:25:40 Speaker 06: with a number of zoning bylaws,

00:25:43 Speaker 06: this would typically actually well exceed

00:25:45 Speaker 06: what we would see in terms

00:25:48 Speaker 06: of a side yard setback. The

00:25:50 Speaker 06: general standard I would see is

00:25:53 Speaker 06: usually an interior side yard setback

00:25:54 Speaker 06: is. The interior side yard setback

00:25:55 Speaker 06: is half of building height, and

00:25:57 Speaker 06: that's tied to angular plane and

00:26:00 Speaker 06: sun shadow from best practices. There

00:26:02 Speaker 06: is a proposed increase of floor

00:26:04 Speaker 06: space index to 1.4, and really

00:26:05 Speaker 06: what this just translates in is

00:26:07 Speaker 06: that it means that the units

00:26:09 Speaker 06: are are slightly larger because you

00:26:11 Speaker 06: are within your density permission in

00:26:15 Speaker 06: terms of units. This really gets

00:26:17 Speaker 06: to the individual unit sizes on

00:26:19 Speaker 06: the property, and the last as

00:26:22 Speaker 06: noted was to allow for the

00:26:25 Speaker 06: pergola to be in that front

00:26:26 Speaker 06: yard. Next slide, please. There were

00:26:28 Speaker 06: a number of technical studies completed,

00:26:30 Speaker 06: as noted, confirming that there is

00:26:31 Speaker 06: appropriate and sufficient infrastructure addressed through

00:26:33 Speaker 06: the plan of subdivision. There was

00:26:38 Speaker 06: a traffic brief that did recommend

00:26:39 Speaker 06: a pedestrian crossing, and as well

00:26:41 Speaker 06: as a flight path analysis, just

00:26:43 Speaker 06: given the proximity to the hospital,

00:26:45 Speaker 06: to ensure that with the proposed

00:26:47 Speaker 06: building height, there was no concerns

00:26:49 Speaker 06: related to the the helicopter helipad.

00:26:52 Speaker 06: Next slide. I just want to

00:26:53 Speaker 06: spend a few more minutes. I

00:26:55 Speaker 06: know cognizant of time on the

00:26:57 Speaker 06: urban design brief that was completed.

00:26:59 Speaker 06: So what these graphics are showing

00:27:00 Speaker 06: is the analysis that was undertaken

00:27:02 Speaker 06: in terms of a color palette

00:27:04 Speaker 06: and the vertical and horizontal articulation.

00:27:05 Speaker 06: So it's showing on the left

00:27:09 Speaker 06: the prominence of the base of

00:27:12 Speaker 06: the building through its projections and

00:27:14 Speaker 06: the portico at the building entrance,

00:27:16 Speaker 06: and then on the right it's

00:27:18 Speaker 06: showing the varied color palette and

00:27:21 Speaker 06: materials for interest in terms of

00:27:22 Speaker 06: breaking up the massing of the.

00:27:24 Speaker 06: building. Next slide. You did see

00:27:27 Speaker 06: this graphic earlier. This again is

00:27:29 Speaker 06: looking at the context of what

00:27:31 Speaker 06: building height is visible from the

00:27:33 Speaker 06: street. And again, given that that

00:27:34 Speaker 06: large retaining wall for both pedestrians

00:27:36 Speaker 06: and vehicles, it would appear as

00:27:39 Speaker 06: a four to five-story apartment building

00:27:42 Speaker 06: in its sightline. So this was

00:27:43 Speaker 06: based on views taken, the existing

00:27:44 Speaker 06: topography and grade, and then placing

00:27:46 Speaker 06: the proposed building. What you'll see

00:27:47 Speaker 06: on the bottom of the page

00:27:49 Speaker 06: is the angular plane. So, in

00:27:50 Speaker 06: typical best urban design practices, it's

00:27:53 Speaker 06: a forty-five degree angular plane. This

00:27:54 Speaker 06: is a way to measure privacy

00:27:56 Speaker 06: and overlook. So, if you're in

00:27:58 Speaker 06: the apartment building and you're standing

00:28:00 Speaker 06: on your balcony and you look

00:28:02 Speaker 06: out, are you peering into somebody's

00:28:04 Speaker 06: backyard where they might want some

00:28:06 Speaker 06: privacy for their amenity area? And

00:28:08 Speaker 06: what you'll see is the proposed

00:28:09 Speaker 06: building is substantially past the angular

00:28:11 Speaker 06: plane. So, in terms of urban

00:28:13 Speaker 06: design analysis, it would meet the

00:28:15 Speaker 06: test of an angular plane if

00:28:19 Speaker 06: the building. essentially abutted the top

00:28:20 Speaker 06: of the angled line in red,

00:28:23 Speaker 06: so that's sort of the location,

00:28:25 Speaker 06: and that's part of the rationale

00:28:27 Speaker 06: of the twenty meter setback that's

00:28:30 Speaker 06: been proposed. Is that would allow

00:28:31 Speaker 06: for the development to meet the

00:28:34 Speaker 06: angular plane. Next slide. So just

00:28:37 Speaker 06: to summarize, as part of the

00:28:38 Speaker 06: planning justification report that I submitted,

00:28:41 Speaker 06: was that the application aligns with

00:28:44 Speaker 06: the Planning Act, is consistent with

00:28:46 Speaker 06: the provincial planning statement, conforms to

00:28:48 Speaker 06: both the county and city.

00:28:51 Speaker 06: official plan to support intensification, efficient

00:28:52 Speaker 06: use of land, and age-friendly community

00:28:54 Speaker 06: objectives that are, of course, fundamental

00:28:56 Speaker 06: to both of those documents. All

00:28:58 Speaker 06: the supporting studies confirm site suitability

00:29:01 Speaker 06: for development, and in our opinion,

00:29:04 Speaker 06: there's been the technical evidence to

00:29:05 Speaker 06: support the appropriateness of the site-specific

00:29:07 Speaker 06: provisions. Certainly, we look forward to

00:29:09 Speaker 06: hearing from council this evening, as

00:29:12 Speaker 06: well as members of the public,

00:29:13 Speaker 06: to try and answer any questions

00:29:17 Speaker 06: you might have. Thank you. Thank

00:29:19 Speaker 06: you very much. We probably won't

00:29:23 Speaker 06: have any questions because we're waiting

00:29:24 Speaker 06: to hear from the public. Who

00:29:25 Speaker 06: did you have? Okay, there is

00:29:27 Speaker 06: one. I do have one question.

00:29:30 Speaker 06: Thank you very much for the

00:29:33 Speaker 06: presentation this evening. I'm a. I

00:29:35 Speaker 06: think this is a fantastic-looking project.

00:29:38 Speaker 06: One question related to. I think

00:29:39 Speaker 06: in the future we do need

00:29:42 Speaker 07: to see an expansion of our

00:29:46 Speaker 07: transit service that's going to service

00:29:49 Speaker 07: 14th Street. To service Fourteen Street

00:29:51 Speaker 07: East, your report notes a crossing

00:29:53 Speaker 07: at Fifteenth Avenue East, Fourteen Street

00:29:56 Speaker 07: East. But as the owner of

00:29:59 Speaker 07: the entire development, right now the

00:30:04 Speaker 07: transit service is on the avenue

00:30:06 Speaker 07: to the east. Is there a

00:30:08 Speaker 07: proposed walkway through what's a proposed

00:30:11 Speaker 07: hotel at this time that would

00:30:12 Speaker 07: facilitate people taking a shorter means

00:30:14 Speaker 07: of travel to the avenue and

00:30:16 Speaker 07: subsequently the intersection cross? Consequently, the

00:30:19 Speaker 07: intersection crossing at 10th Street and

00:30:22 Speaker 07: and the Avenue. While we await

00:30:24 Speaker 07: the opportunity in the future to

00:30:27 Speaker 07: be able to redesign potentially our

00:30:29 Speaker 07: our transit network, because right now

00:30:30 Speaker 07: it would be just a little

00:30:33 Speaker 06: bit of a long walk to

00:30:38 Speaker 06: be able to catch the bus

00:30:40 Speaker 06: or use the transit service, and

00:30:41 Speaker 06: it's not the safest crossing at

00:30:42 Speaker 06: this time without an intersection where

00:30:44 Speaker 06: 14th. Street meets the avenue. So,

00:30:46 Speaker 06: just a question on what your

00:30:47 Speaker 06: plans are in the short term

00:30:48 Speaker 06: in terms of walkway or through

00:30:51 Speaker 06: there. Oh, it turned it off.

00:30:52 Speaker 06: Thank you. No, I appreciate that

00:30:59 Speaker 02: question. Thank you. Certainly, something we

00:31:01 Speaker 02: can look at with the design

00:31:02 Speaker 02: team, just in terms of ownership,

00:31:04 Speaker 02: because it would be crossing private

00:31:07 Speaker 02: property. So, if you can leave

00:31:08 Speaker 02: that with us, we can review

00:31:11 Speaker 02: with the ownership and engineers to

00:31:13 Speaker 02: see if there's something that's possible.

00:31:31 Speaker 02: Okay. Again, thank you. So this

00:31:33 Speaker 02: is the opportunity for the public

00:31:35 Speaker 02: to speak. We ask that speakers

00:31:37 Speaker 02: state their name and the municipality

00:31:40 Speaker 02: of which they reside for the

00:31:43 Speaker 02: record, and then make their statements.

00:31:48 Speaker 02: So, if you want to comment

00:31:50 Speaker 02: in this project, please come forward.

00:31:52 Speaker 02: Oh, hello. My name is Kaylee.

00:31:58 Speaker 02: Nice to meet you. My question

00:31:59 Speaker 02: about the apartment building is: It

00:32:02 Speaker 02: said they said they, the public

00:32:04 Speaker 02: would have access to the pickleball

00:32:06 Speaker 02: courts as well as the woodworking

00:32:08 Speaker 02: workshop. My question is: How much

00:32:10 Speaker 02: would that cost? Either the city.

00:32:13 Speaker 02: or people who want to use

00:32:15 Speaker 02: said services, or if it would

00:32:18 Speaker 02: be free at point of entry.

00:32:20 Speaker 02: That's probably one of those questions

00:32:22 Speaker 02: for down the road. Not quite

00:32:26 Speaker 02: tonight. We won't have the ability

00:32:28 Speaker 02: to answer. But anything you want

00:32:30 Speaker 02: to add to that, Pam? Through

00:32:31 Speaker 02: your worship, the access to the

00:32:44 Speaker 02: on-site amenities, being called community lifestyle

00:32:46 Speaker 02: facility, really aren't part of the

00:32:48 Speaker 02: amendment. but we can maybe

00:32:51 Speaker 02: plan to report back on that

00:32:53 Speaker 08: when we bring the recommendation report.

00:32:56 Speaker 08: Good, thank you. Anyone else wish

00:32:58 Speaker 08: to speak? Were you done? Did

00:33:01 Speaker 08: you have others? That's good. Okay,

00:33:04 Speaker 08: thanks, Katie. Andres Vorgano, sound. I

00:33:06 Speaker 08: have submitted research to council explaining

00:33:08 Speaker 08: why this proposal risks creating. a

00:33:10 Speaker 08: concentrated humanitarian burden, increasing food insecurity,

00:33:12 Speaker 08: mental health strain, and emergency service

00:33:14 Speaker 08: demand. If council proceeds with the

00:33:17 Speaker 08: eight-story 120-unit building, then the projected

00:33:19 Speaker 08: 870,000 in annual tax revenue should

00:33:23 Speaker 08: include mitigation funding, roughly 100,000 per

00:33:24 Speaker 08: year for OSHaRE or other

00:33:26 Speaker 08: food support, a provincial funding

00:33:30 Speaker 08: request for an additional 30 to

00:33:32 Speaker 08: 40,000 for CMHA Grey Bruce, and

00:33:34 Speaker 08: a staff report estimating added police

00:33:36 Speaker 08: and fire servicing costs. using Oceanside's

00:33:38 Speaker 08: own police and fire budgets, 120

00:33:40 Speaker 08: units could represent roughly 140,000 to

00:33:42 Speaker 08: 185,000 per year in baseline police

00:33:43 Speaker 08: and fire demand before accounting for

00:33:45 Speaker 08: concentrated distress. Council should also compare

00:33:47 Speaker 08: alternatives. A properly structured vacant home

00:33:49 Speaker 08: tax could bring tens and eventually

00:33:50 Speaker 08: hundreds of vacant or secondary dwellings

00:33:52 Speaker 08: back onto the market with no

00:33:55 Speaker 08: new construction, no new concrete, and

00:33:56 Speaker 08: no major new infrastructure burden. And

00:33:58 Speaker 08: if the builder wants to

00:34:00 Speaker 08: invest 60 million in a project.

00:34:03 Speaker 08: To invest sixty million in a

00:34:05 Speaker 08: project that truly benefits the community

00:34:06 Speaker 08: long term, that same amount could

00:34:08 Speaker 08: create roughly eight year hamlets of

00:34:09 Speaker 08: about on about one thousand one

00:34:10 Speaker 08: hundred acres, two hundred twenty four

00:34:11 Speaker 08: family households, enough for four hundred

00:34:13 Speaker 08: and forty eight adults, while improving

00:34:16 Speaker 08: local food security, reducing homelessness, supporting

00:34:17 Speaker 08: local work, strengthening the county economy,

00:34:20 Speaker 08: and producing enough surplus food to

00:34:21 Speaker 08: feed help feed an additional five

00:34:23 Speaker 08: hundred to one thousand people. I

00:34:25 Speaker 08: invite the builder to meet with

00:34:27 Speaker 08: me after this meeting or contact

00:34:28 Speaker 08: me at this week, and I

00:34:30 Speaker 08: will be happy to help. develop

00:34:33 Speaker 08: a practical pilot proposal. So my

00:34:34 Speaker 08: position is practical. If council approves

00:34:37 Speaker 08: this building, budget for human consequences.

00:34:38 Speaker 08: If council wants more housing, use

00:34:40 Speaker 08: the vacant homes we already have,

00:34:44 Speaker 08: with the vacant home tax. And

00:34:45 Speaker 08: if we are investing tens of

00:34:47 Speaker 08: millions in new development, choose models

00:34:49 Speaker 08: that add homes, food security, local

00:34:55 Speaker 02: work, and long-term resilience. Thank you.

00:34:56 Speaker 02: Is there anyone else who wishes

00:34:58 Speaker 02: to speak? It's in the room.

00:35:00 Speaker 02: Seeing nobody going to the microphone,

00:35:04 Speaker 02: I understand there's somebody online. I'll

00:35:07 Speaker 02: hand it over to you, Briana.

00:35:09 Speaker 02: Cheryl, if you had comments you'd

00:35:11 Speaker 02: like to provide, you can unmute

00:35:14 Speaker 02: your microphone now. I am good,

00:35:16 Speaker 02: thank you. Okay, thank you very

00:35:22 Speaker 02: much. Is there anyone else in

00:35:23 Speaker 02: the room that wishes to speak?

00:35:25 Speaker 02: Otherwise, we will declare the public

00:35:28 Speaker 02: meeting over and move forward. Seeing

00:35:31 Speaker 02: no one going to the microphone,

00:35:33 Speaker 02: I will declare the public meeting

00:35:38 Speaker 02: closed. Thank everyone for. coming in

00:35:43 Speaker 02: and speaking to this, and thank

00:35:45 Speaker 02: you to Ms. Baker and to

00:35:47 Speaker 02: Ms. Robert that presented to us.

00:35:49 Speaker 02: So next at seven a in

00:35:51 Speaker 02: our agenda, we have a deputation

00:35:52 Speaker 02: from Kevin Weaver, President and CEO

00:35:54 Speaker 02: of Georgian College, with a Georgian

00:35:56 Speaker 02: College update. So we welcome you

00:35:57 Speaker 09: and and your guests that you'll

00:36:00 Speaker 09: probably introduce. Thank you, Mayor. Anishnagouk

00:36:01 Speaker 09: and Akwesasne greetings in Ojibwe, Mohawk,

00:36:02 Speaker 09: and Nipissing, and I also want

00:36:05 Speaker 09: to recognize we're here on the

00:36:07 Speaker 09: traditional territory of the Anishinaabe Nation.

00:36:10 Speaker 09: I want to thank you, Mayor

00:36:12 Speaker 09: Body, and Deputy Mayor Greig, and

00:36:13 Speaker 09: members of Council for the opportunity

00:36:16 Speaker 09: to provide a Georgian update. And

00:36:18 Speaker 09: I'm joined by our past chair

00:36:20 Speaker 09: and current Board of Governor Steve

00:36:24 Speaker 09: Lowe and our Executive Director of

00:36:27 Speaker 09: the Owen Sound Campus, Dave Shori.

00:36:29 Speaker 09: Georgian and Owen Sound have a

00:36:32 Speaker 09: proud history. of collaboration, deeply rooted

00:36:34 Speaker 09: in shared values. Since our own

00:36:36 Speaker 09: Sound campus was built, Georgian

00:36:38 Speaker 09: and the city have both grown

00:36:40 Speaker 09: together, innovated together, and achieved much

00:36:42 Speaker 09: success over the years. We deeply

00:36:45 Speaker 09: value the support you've provided and

00:36:47 Speaker 09: our continued collaboration. Is this working

00:36:50 Speaker 09: now? Oh, maybe it is. Georgian

00:36:52 Speaker 09: is a designated military-connected and Ashoka

00:36:54 Speaker 09: U Change Maker College. We've served

00:36:56 Speaker 09: this region for nearly sixty years

00:36:58 Speaker 09: now. we're home to approximately eleven

00:37:00 Speaker 09: thousand full-time students, and in Osnaburgh

00:37:02 Speaker 09: at the campus, we have about

00:37:04 Speaker 09: six hundred post-secondary students each semester,

00:37:06 Speaker 09: more than six hundred and fifty

00:37:08 Speaker 09: apprentices, and fifteen hundred active mariners

00:37:11 Speaker 09: annually. More than one hundred twenty-five

00:37:13 Speaker 09: thousand Georgian alumni are making their

00:37:15 Speaker 09: mark, and eleven thousand of those

00:37:17 Speaker 09: alumni are from right here at

00:37:19 Speaker 09: the Osnaburgh campus. We offer more

00:37:21 Speaker 09: than one hundred thirty market-driven programs

00:37:23 Speaker 09: with a graduate employment rate of

00:37:25 Speaker 09: ninety point three. percent, above the

00:37:28 Speaker 09: provincial average, which we've exceeded for

00:37:30 Speaker 09: over twenty five years. We're also

00:37:36 Speaker 09: we also continue to have a

00:37:38 Speaker 09: growing economic impact. Data from twenty

00:37:41 Speaker 09: two twenty three shows the On

00:37:43 Speaker 09: Sound campus had an impact of

00:37:45 Speaker 09: one hundred five point one million

00:37:48 Speaker 09: dollars, and more recent data from

00:37:50 Speaker 09: twenty four twenty five indicates Georgian

00:37:52 Speaker 09: had an annual economic impact of

00:37:53 Speaker 09: two billion dollars across the areas

00:37:55 Speaker 09: that we serve. Our communities, industries,

00:37:57 Speaker 09: and world continue to undergo rapid

00:37:59 Speaker 09: and profound changes, vastly reshaping how

00:38:01 Speaker 09: we think, teach, learn, work, and

00:38:02 Speaker 09: interact. Never before have we had

00:38:05 Speaker 09: to be more agile, responsive, willing

00:38:07 Speaker 09: to transform and adapt. It's natural

00:38:10 Speaker 09: to want to shrink back or

00:38:12 Speaker 09: step aside in these moments and

00:38:14 Speaker 09: let others figure it out. But

00:38:14 Speaker 09: leading through challenge and change, and

00:38:17 Speaker 09: helping our students and partners to

00:38:19 Speaker 09: do the same and emerge stronger,

00:38:22 Speaker 09: has always been part of what

00:38:23 Speaker 09: we do here at Georgian. We

00:38:26 Speaker 09: know, and it's become clear this

00:38:29 Speaker 09: year as we continued to face

00:38:31 Speaker 09: significant financial challenges. Now is not

00:38:33 Speaker 09: the time for Georgian to sit

00:38:35 Speaker 09: idle. Now is the time for

00:38:37 Speaker 09: us to be more bold, daring,

00:38:39 Speaker 09: and brave. Guiding us is our

00:38:43 Speaker 09: five-year strategic plan, which we launched

00:38:46 Speaker 09: last spring. We took time to

00:38:49 Speaker 09: ask many of our constituents,

00:38:51 Speaker 09: from students, employees, partners, to alumni

00:38:55 Speaker 09: and Indigenous communities, tell us. what

00:38:56 Speaker 09: you most want and expect Georgian

00:38:59 Speaker 09: to be. The one word that

00:39:01 Speaker 09: surfaced repeatedly was innovation. So innovation

00:39:05 Speaker 09: is what we built this

00:39:08 Speaker 09: plan on. Our strategy grounds

00:39:11 Speaker 09: every decision we make, challenge we

00:39:13 Speaker 09: solution and opportunity we pursue. Georgian

00:39:17 Speaker 09: has been making strategic choices, working

00:39:20 Speaker 09: through financial constraints while recalibrating for

00:39:22 Speaker 09: future strength and resiliency. Our strategic

00:39:24 Speaker 09: plan has been guiding those hard

00:39:26 Speaker 09: but necessary. decisions. The challenges we've

00:39:28 Speaker 09: faced are the result of broad,

00:39:30 Speaker 09: system-wide pressures, including historic funding shortfalls,

00:39:33 Speaker 09: inflation, and changing enrollment patterns, particularly

00:39:35 Speaker 09: related to shifts in immigration policy

00:39:37 Speaker 09: and a rapid and significant decrease

00:39:39 Speaker 09: in international student enrollment. To date,

00:39:42 Speaker 09: Georgian has announced the closure of

00:39:44 Speaker 09: two campuses and paused activity at

00:39:48 Speaker 09: a third. We've also unfortunately had

00:39:50 Speaker 09: to reduce our full-time. We had

00:39:52 Speaker 09: to reduce our full-time workforce by

00:39:54 Speaker 09: 20 percent, and unfortunately, we know

00:39:56 Speaker 09: that number will increase. The new

00:39:59 Speaker 09: provincial funding model and investment in

00:40:02 Speaker 09: our sector is a great step

00:40:06 Speaker 09: forward, but it's the foundation and

00:40:09 Speaker 09: certainly not the finish line. The

00:40:12 Speaker 09: financial imperative to make cuts and

00:40:13 Speaker 09: strategic choices will persist. As we

00:40:15 Speaker 09: manage through these changes, the need

00:40:18 Speaker 09: for Georgian grads has never been

00:40:20 Speaker 09: greater. In Ontario, we need one

00:40:24 Speaker 09: million new college graduates. in skilled

00:40:26 Speaker 09: trades, healthcare, energy, mining, and advanced

00:40:28 Speaker 09: manufacturing, and increasingly areas tied to

00:40:30 Speaker 09: defense and national resilience by 2035,

00:40:32 Speaker 09: and that's according to colleges Ontario

00:40:34 Speaker 09: data. Our own regional forecasts support

00:40:37 Speaker 09: those numbers, and what we know

00:40:39 Speaker 09: is in those sectors, colleges supply

00:40:42 Speaker 09: more than half of the workforce

00:40:44 Speaker 09: and are the fastest, most scalable

00:40:47 Speaker 09: mechanism to respond. So we continue

00:40:49 Speaker 09: to advance. outcomes where it matters

00:40:51 Speaker 09: most in this region. We're growing

00:40:53 Speaker 09: our local healthcare workforce. I'm thrilled

00:40:55 Speaker 09: to share that the first cohort

00:40:58 Speaker 09: of our honors bachelor of science

00:40:59 Speaker 09: nursing students will graduate next week.

00:41:01 Speaker 09: Bringing that program to unsound was

00:41:04 Speaker 09: a significant community and industry advocacy

00:41:07 Speaker 09: effort and a large fundraising initiative

00:41:10 Speaker 09: as we transformed our learning spaces.

00:41:11 Speaker 09: We've seen through growth in that

00:41:14 Speaker 09: program through the addition of our

00:41:16 Speaker 09: registered practical nurse to register. Nurse

00:41:18 Speaker 09: to registered nurse pathway. We continue

00:41:20 Speaker 09: to advance our leadership in marine

00:41:22 Speaker 09: training and education, and we are

00:41:24 Speaker 09: one of five marine cadet schools

00:41:26 Speaker 09: in Canada. And our Center for

00:41:29 Speaker 09: Marine Training and Research is recognized

00:41:31 Speaker 09: as central Canada's marine center of

00:41:33 Speaker 09: excellence. This year, as part of

00:41:36 Speaker 09: the Ontario government's six point four

00:41:38 Speaker 09: billion dollars in investment in post

00:41:41 Speaker 09: secondary, they're providing sixty three point

00:41:42 Speaker 09: one million over the next four

00:41:44 Speaker 09: years, which is some recognition. of

00:41:46 Speaker 09: the important role we play in

00:41:48 Speaker 09: advancing the growth and development of

00:41:51 Speaker 09: the critical talent our communities and

00:41:54 Speaker 09: economy needs. We brought the social

00:41:56 Speaker 09: service worker program to the Onondaga

00:41:59 Speaker 09: campus this September to meet growing

00:42:02 Speaker 09: demand and complement other community services

00:42:05 Speaker 09: offerings. We're also meeting critical needs

00:42:06 Speaker 09: in the skilled trades, and

00:42:08 Speaker 09: what we know is, according to

00:42:11 Speaker 09: our latest data, the projected rate

00:42:13 Speaker 09: for skilled trades in Georgian's catchment

00:42:16 Speaker 09: area by 2031 is 10 percent.

00:42:18 Speaker 09: One is 10%, or the equivalent

00:42:21 Speaker 09: of 80,000 jobs. That outpaces the

00:42:22 Speaker 09: provincial rate, which is only at

00:42:25 Speaker 09: 8%. In addition, we're seeing tremendous

00:42:26 Speaker 09: growth in nuclear and clean energy

00:42:28 Speaker 09: connected programming and partnerships. Georgian's working

00:42:32 Speaker 09: closely with the sector as part

00:42:35 Speaker 09: of a consortium of post-secondary institutions

00:42:38 Speaker 09: to align labor needs with our

00:42:40 Speaker 09: training capabilities. We've also joined the

00:42:43 Speaker 09: Canadian Nuclear Association as we help

00:42:45 Speaker 09: strengthen Canada's clean energy workforce. As

00:42:48 Speaker 09: clean energy workforce and deepen our

00:42:51 Speaker 09: already strong partnerships, and we have

00:42:54 Speaker 09: a new power systems lab under

00:42:55 Speaker 09: construction right now, and will be

00:42:59 Speaker 09: the future home of nuclear aligned

00:43:00 Speaker 09: curriculum right here in Owen Sound.

00:43:03 Speaker 09: We know it's partnerships that will

00:43:04 Speaker 09: drive us forward. Collaboration between education,

00:43:07 Speaker 09: government, industry, and community is what

00:43:09 Speaker 09: makes and will continue to

00:43:11 Speaker 09: make us all future ready, resilient,

00:43:13 Speaker 09: and strong. At the intersection is

00:43:16 Speaker 09: where. innovation and possibility live and

00:43:19 Speaker 09: thrive. As your community college, Georgian

00:43:21 Speaker 09: is committed committed to continuing to

00:43:23 Speaker 09: do our part to lead through

00:43:26 Speaker 09: complexity and develop solutions. The Owen Sound

00:43:28 Speaker 09: campus is a high is highly

00:43:30 Speaker 09: connected and engaged. A great

00:43:32 Speaker 09: example of this, and there are

00:43:36 Speaker 09: countless more, is our partnership with

00:43:37 Speaker 09: Georgian between Georgian and Bright Shores,

00:43:40 Speaker 09: beginning with offering palliative care simulation

00:43:42 Speaker 09: training to a variety of healthcare

00:43:44 Speaker 09: providers. bolstering care and support for

00:43:46 Speaker 09: families in Gray Bruce. We also

00:43:49 Speaker 09: continue to grow our partnership

00:43:51 Speaker 09: with Bruce Power, and these partnerships

00:43:54 Speaker 09: are truly a win-win. Bruce Power

00:43:56 Speaker 09: provides us with the invaluable insight

00:43:59 Speaker 09: into where the industry is headed,

00:44:01 Speaker 09: and provides students with work-integrated learning

00:44:03 Speaker 09: opportunities and graduate employment. In turn,

00:44:05 Speaker 09: they gain access to emerging talent

00:44:07 Speaker 09: and fresh perspectives. Amber Schuler from

00:44:09 Speaker 09: Southampton is one of those talented

00:44:12 Speaker 09: students you see. pictured there, she's

00:44:14 Speaker 09: in our Power Engineering Advanced Diploma

00:44:16 Speaker 09: program and was awarded the prestigious

00:44:19 Speaker 09: forty thousand dollar Schuylkill Builder Entrance

00:44:22 Speaker 09: Scholarship in September, and is currently

00:44:23 Speaker 09: completing a co-op at Bruce Power,

00:44:25 Speaker 09: eager to contribute and grow a

00:44:27 Speaker 09: career in the industry. There's never

00:44:28 Speaker 09: been a more vital time for

00:44:30 Speaker 09: Georgian and this council to deepen

00:44:32 Speaker 02: our partnership. Our local economy needs

00:44:35 Speaker 02: more Georgian graduates to drive innovation,

00:44:37 Speaker 02: keep on sound. Keep Owen Sound,

00:44:38 Speaker 02: Grey, and Bruce Counties strong and

00:44:40 Speaker 02: thriving, and I know together we

00:44:43 Speaker 02: can continue to expand our influence

00:44:45 Speaker 02: and our impact. We continue to

00:44:46 Speaker 02: do the hard work and heavy

00:44:48 Speaker 02: lifting to make sure that our

00:44:49 Speaker 02: programs and this campus can continue

00:44:51 Speaker 02: to thrive and meet the labor

00:44:53 Speaker 02: force needs in the region. Thank

00:44:56 Speaker 02: you again for having us, and

00:44:59 Speaker 02: I'm happy to take any questions.

00:45:01 Speaker 02: No, thank you for coming, President

00:45:03 Speaker 02: Weaver. Georgian College is so important

00:45:06 Speaker 02: to our community. The the fabric

00:45:09 Speaker 02: of our community. A year or

00:45:11 Speaker 02: so ago, Dave Sherry, that's with

00:45:13 Speaker 02: you, presented at the Chamber of

00:45:16 Speaker 02: Commerce, and just about every award

00:45:17 Speaker 02: winner that got up that night

00:45:19 Speaker 02: talked about how they graduated from

00:45:21 Speaker 02: Georgian College and how it changed

00:45:23 Speaker 02: their lives. Economic impact huge. Future

00:45:26 Speaker 02: need for employees, especially skilled trades,

00:45:28 Speaker 02: as we look at the clean

00:45:30 Speaker 02: energy frontier, makes Georgian College really

00:45:31 Speaker 02: the own sound campus at Georgian

00:45:33 Speaker 02: College as being the the the.

00:45:35 Speaker 02: model or the best best example

00:45:36 Speaker 02: of rural colleges and the needs

00:45:38 Speaker 02: so that kids don't have to

00:45:40 Speaker 10: go somewhere else to live to

00:45:43 Speaker 10: go to school and maybe can't

00:45:45 Speaker 10: afford to and it it provides

00:45:46 Speaker 10: so much for our region. So,

00:45:48 Speaker 10: anyone else have any comments, Councilor?

00:45:50 Speaker 10: Yeah, Councilor Farmer. Through the mayor,

00:45:52 Speaker 10: thanks for coming. I'm curious. In

00:45:54 Speaker 10: years past, when we've had delegations

00:45:55 Speaker 10: from Georgian, one of the shared

00:45:57 Speaker 10: challenges that has come up has

00:45:58 Speaker 10: been housing, and I know Georgian

00:46:04 Speaker 09: was doing some maybe. new initiatives

00:46:06 Speaker 09: or experiments to try to bridge

00:46:08 Speaker 09: that gap between community and and

00:46:10 Speaker 09: students to make it possible for

00:46:13 Speaker 09: folks not just locally to to

00:46:14 Speaker 09: go to school but also to

00:46:17 Speaker 09: come from outside of the region

00:46:19 Speaker 09: study here stay here support the

00:46:22 Speaker 09: various sectors that your grads go

00:46:24 Speaker 09: on to support. Can you tell

00:46:27 Speaker 09: us about how housing is a

00:46:29 Speaker 09: either a pinch point or a

00:46:30 Speaker 09: pinch point that you've overcome with

00:46:32 Speaker 09: recent initiatives? Through you, Mayor. Thank

00:46:34 Speaker 09: you for. the question. Yes, we

00:46:36 Speaker 09: have been working actively in the

00:46:38 Speaker 09: community. We work with landlords, trying

00:46:40 Speaker 09: to connect landlords and available rental

00:46:44 Speaker 09: units with our students. Our student

00:46:46 Speaker 09: residences is generally full. What we

00:46:48 Speaker 09: have seen with the change in

00:46:50 Speaker 09: immigration policy, the the the sad

00:46:53 Speaker 09: reality is we do have less

00:46:54 Speaker 09: students coming, generally from outside the

00:46:56 Speaker 09: region. But we haven't we haven't

00:46:57 Speaker 09: let our foot off the gas

00:46:59 Speaker 09: in terms of housing. So we're

00:47:00 Speaker 09: excited to hear some potential. new

00:47:02 Speaker 09: developments in the city, and we

00:47:04 Speaker 09: we do have some future hopes

00:47:06 Speaker 09: to do something in this space.

00:47:09 Speaker 09: I will admit, in the current

00:47:12 Speaker 09: financial climate, that will have to

00:47:13 Speaker 09: be postponed for us. But as

00:47:16 Speaker 09: we continue to work through our

00:47:17 Speaker 09: our financial sustainability, but yes, we

00:47:19 Speaker 09: continue to support our students in

00:47:21 Speaker 09: every way they can. And I

00:47:26 Speaker 07: think a good news is I'll

00:47:27 Speaker 07: just use our nursing. Our nursing

00:47:29 Speaker 07: program is part of the Learn

00:47:32 Speaker 07: and Stay program by the provincial

00:47:34 Speaker 07: government, so students that. come to

00:47:35 Speaker 07: this campus study nursing have all

00:47:37 Speaker 07: their tuition, supplies, and books paid

00:47:39 Speaker 07: as long as they work six

00:47:40 Speaker 07: months in the region for every

00:47:42 Speaker 07: year of education that that is

00:47:45 Speaker 07: paid. So that is also bringing

00:47:47 Speaker 07: folks from outside, and we're making

00:47:49 Speaker 07: sure we're connecting them with the

00:47:52 Speaker 07: housing options in the city. Deputy

00:47:54 Speaker 07: Mayor Greg. Well, just to kind

00:47:56 Speaker 07: of piggyback or build off of

00:47:58 Speaker 07: some of those comments already,

00:48:01 Speaker 07: you. touched upon some of the

00:48:04 Speaker 07: relationships that are in the community.

00:48:06 Speaker 07: Just last week at Gray County,

00:48:07 Speaker 07: and I certainly am speaking on

00:48:09 Speaker 07: behalf of eighteen at Gray County.

00:48:11 Speaker 07: We are always overjoyed and very

00:48:15 Speaker 07: pleased when Mr. Shori presents to

00:48:18 Speaker 07: the county all the activities that

00:48:22 Speaker 07: are underway and and the impact

00:48:26 Speaker 07: that the college has within the

00:48:28 Speaker 07: county. Last Thursday, we had a

00:48:30 Speaker 07: deputation from the Nuclear Innovation Institute,

00:48:31 Speaker 07: and you touched upon it and

00:48:36 Speaker 07: the the great forward-looking forward-thinking. Looking

00:48:39 Speaker 07: forward, thinking initiatives that are are

00:48:41 Speaker 07: in place right now look into

00:48:43 Speaker 07: support Bruce Powers build out in

00:48:45 Speaker 07: the future and all the labor

00:48:48 Speaker 07: force needs that come about it.

00:48:50 Speaker 07: You and I both sat in

00:48:51 Speaker 07: a seminar at Roma. There was

00:48:53 Speaker 07: two or three college individuals presenting

00:48:55 Speaker 07: that seminar, speaking to rural needs

00:48:57 Speaker 07: within the province, primarily in northern

00:48:59 Speaker 07: Ontario. These individuals were. representing, but

00:49:03 Speaker 07: our needs are similar. And I

00:49:07 Speaker 09: think some of that, the the

00:49:10 Speaker 09: main commitment to the communities is

00:49:11 Speaker 09: that their need, the the facilities

00:49:13 Speaker 09: are needed within about 90 minutes

00:49:15 Speaker 09: to support the communities. And at

00:49:18 Speaker 09: that time, it was spoken about

00:49:19 Speaker 09: the financial challenges within the financial

00:49:20 Speaker 09: sustainability. The province moved forward with

00:49:24 Speaker 09: some of that funding that's needed.

00:49:27 Speaker 09: You spoke about that. Could you

00:49:29 Speaker 09: kind of build upon that conversation

00:49:30 Speaker 09: that was had that day about

00:49:32 Speaker 09: the the rural colleges, the needs

00:49:34 Speaker 09: for support financially, and what that

00:49:36 Speaker 09: financial assistance has done. But where

00:49:39 Speaker 09: where the gap still moving forward?

00:49:40 Speaker 09: Yeah, through you, Mayor. Thank you

00:49:42 Speaker 09: for the question, and and it

00:49:44 Speaker 09: is really important for us, as

00:49:47 Speaker 09: you said, the the presence of

00:49:49 Speaker 09: a campus like the Onslow Campus

00:49:51 Speaker 09: of Georgian College and what it

00:49:52 Speaker 09: does to access in in rural

00:49:55 Speaker 09: communities and supporting our employment is

00:49:56 Speaker 09: so. fundamentally critical, and and that

00:49:59 Speaker 09: panel was in fact all about

00:50:02 Speaker 09: that. What it meant to the

00:50:04 Speaker 09: city of Thunder Bay, excuse me,

00:50:05 Speaker 09: with Confederation College, and I'd say

00:50:08 Speaker 09: our our relationship is similar. It's

00:50:10 Speaker 09: a very reciprocal agreement. So what

00:50:11 Speaker 09: we've done through our advocacy is

00:50:13 Speaker 09: we've been asking for an increase

00:50:15 Speaker 09: to what's called the Small Rural

00:50:18 Speaker 09: Northern Grant. So we we get

00:50:20 Speaker 09: funded by full time equivalent students

00:50:22 Speaker 09: as a college, and it doesn't

00:50:25 Speaker 09: matter if we have one campus,