What qualifies as “middle class” these days? Roughly 24% of Ontario public sector workers are on the sunshine list. While this doesn’t give us a ton of insight into the private sector, this would still suggest that if we say the 19% is the middle class that to be middle class you have to be making more than $100k/year…
Not trying to argue, just trying to understand where the goalposts are.
The argument against inheritance tax seems to be that we don’t want to screw the inheritors out of the ability to own a family property or something, but it seems like it’s be REALLY easy to draw a line and make it such that the estate is taxable if more than $X value is going to a single recipient and/or if the estate is valued in excess of $XY that it’s taxable and/or if the recipients assets exceed $Z that entitlements exceeding $X are taxable. I’m sure there’d be a few edge cases that would miss the mark, but it seems like it would be a lot better than the current system of generational wealth building up with the new generations literally not needing to work a day in their lives and still pass on wealth to their kids.
Nope. If someone is inside my home and is an armed & immediate threat, I think I should be able to use whatever force necessary to protect myself and my family from that threat. If that person leaves my home, they’re no longer an immediate threat to me, are they? In the example you gave, the person that died was no longer an immediate threat.
In any case, it’s pretty clear that you aren’t interested in discussing nuance for the topic at hand, but rather “winning.” I’m done here.
No. I think it’s not good faith because your argument was not in any way trying to determine what is reasonable and was instead resorting immediately to extreme edge cases.
No I do not think “any” level of force is justified.
Do I disagree with that ruling? With only the information you’ve provided, no I don’t.
I’m also not interested in adversarial debate, I’m interested in discussion. I’m not trying to win anything here, I’m trying to expand my point of view and better understand how others view the society in which we all live.
Try arguing in good faith.
Where. Is. The. Line?
I’m not sure I can agree. Why did they not simply wait to get the facts before filing charges?
This guy has had to deal with the fallout of being charged/arraigned/etc. and probably had to retain a barrister. The news said that they dropped the charges due to a conviction being practically impossible. Reading the details, it sounds like there was a strong defense for the resident to claim that most of the cuts were from the home invader cutting himself up on the window he broke in through…
So the charges were not dropped because it’s ok to defend yourself, the charges were dropped because they can’t prove that this guy sliced up the home invader.
This case doesn’t do anything to show where the line is.
Alright, so if someone breaks in to your home with a crossbow, what is the limit on your self defense?
Are you saying that if someone breaks into your home with apparent intent to cause harm that you can’t defend your person with whatever means necessary? I think that if someone breaks in brandishing a weapon that it should be open season.
This isn’t a case of a homeowner beating up a drunk that accidentally broke into a house thinking it was their own and fell asleep on the couch.
Oh, absolutely. I’m just trying to use it as a marker to try to figure out where the goal posts should be for what we are calling “middle class.”
I have a friend who works in central Ontario for a fortune 500 and they take home ~80k/year, and I’ve considered them and their family middle class for a while, but they also were telling me that they’re overextended and struggling to keep up on interest payments…while also being denied a consolidation loan. So maybe they are not really middle class…?